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    Player
    Rhywden's Avatar
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    Khaelinn Thaern
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 12
    Quote Originally Posted by dstyle View Post
    from this forum and forums from other sites, im narrowing it down to client issue...everyone has been fine during beta, but since EA the problem starting occuring
    A client issue is actually near impossible. A BSOD only happens due to driver or hardware issues since those are the only ones which can take the whole system down.

    In a nutshell, what happens is this:
    1) Program issues a valid(!) command to a driver
    2) Driver does something it's not supposed to do (either due to a bug or faulty hardware), like writing to the reserved memory of another driver
    3) Windows detects that the driver malfunctions and shuts the whole system down before this loose cannon does any more harm (and before you think: "What harm?", please remember that it could easily write to the memory addresses the file system drivers use - which could result in overwritten system files and an unbootable system. Just one example.)

    Now, why are you seeing this BSOD only in FFXIV? Easy: A software bug does not have to be an easy "If I do this then that!" but a more complicated: "If the hardware clock just jumped to a full minute and the user did a right click, then playing this particular animation will result in a crash."
    In full: Only FFXIV may fulfill all the criteria for triggering the bug. But that's not FFXIV's fault. That's the driver's fault. Just like with a car where the brake lines are rotten - braking is a perfectly valid and legal maneuver. Just not in this particular car.

    And since everybody's PC is slightly different, this bug may not exist on other people's PCs at all.
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    Jol Quetzalcoatl
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhywden View Post
    A client issue is actually near impossible. A BSOD only happens due to driver or hardware issues since those are the only ones which can take the whole system down.
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    In full: Only FFXIV may fulfill all the criteria for triggering the bug. But that's not FFXIV's fault. That's the driver's fault. Just like with a car where the brake lines are rotten - braking is a perfectly valid and legal maneuver. Just not in this particular car.
    Given this probability, doesn't that mean that we all have to wait for NVIDIA to figure out the problem, and issue a new driver?
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    Brick Tree
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    Adamantoise
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    Pugilist Lv 20
    Not sure if its been mentioned yet, but a guy named witai on reddit suggested playing in windowed mode, on the lower laptop graphical setting.

    This worked for me, but its a bit of a downgrade visually. I hope a real fix is in the works.
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    Minow Ray
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 8
    Ok i'm not alone in this case, i have a BSOD after 4 or 5 hour of game :s

    I'm using the nvidia 314.22. I know it's not the last version but the new driver are not sure.
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    Ellyidol San
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    Tiamat
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I've had a crash issue (once) when going from Bordered Window mode to Full Screen mode in-game, the program crashed and kicked me out.

    I've also had a BSOD (twice) from playing in Full Screen mode.

    I've had no problems whatsoever (other than FPS drop) while playing in Bordered Window mode.

    These things tell me that there's a problem with the full screen mode, but player results here who still get it in Window mode leave me clueless
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    Aipotu Bast
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 11
    Damn! Thought I solved the problem but nope. I would love to do an instance/PvE but I'm afraid I'll just crash in the middle of it. This is so freakin' confounding... don't know why it's happening.

    I would love some acknowledgement from the dev team on this issue. Please let us know you're aware of our issues Square.
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    Blazza Blu
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I thought I was fixed too, didn't have a crash for 2 days, but had one a couple hours ago -_-

    Did another complete driver uninstall and installed the 320.49 again. Then I got 90k'd and am stuck in the endless 1017 now...
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    Shintlara Nightsong
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    Shiva
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    for me causing problems was the logitech gaming software latest build 8.5. With 8.46 it's fine but still can't max settings :/ and I have to use it or without it's worse, dunno why + disabling microsoft security essentials helps too :/ i can play on shitty settings for hours without problems :< on max like itshould be after a while fps drops a lot
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    Last edited by Blackmogg; 09-01-2013 at 04:27 AM.

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    Arrow Girl
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    Hades
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    Archer Lv 24
    Having the same problem here. I've had more than 10 crashes in the past few days and had to shut down holding the button. Hopefully a fix will be available soon.
    The laptop setting which downgrades the visuals seem to work though.
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    Scarla Jayne
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 20
    Got 2 BSODs last night after playing most of the week without an issue, not sure what may have changed as I haven't done anything to my system (no updates to drivers, don't think I've even had any updates for Windows itself). It lists 'memory management' as the cause, but I only get it when I'm running FF14. Been playing other games today just to see if anything else triggers it, but it has been clear sailing. Ran some memory tests as well, nothing popped up.
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