Excuses & Daily Updates

[Elexia]

I wouldn't call it defending since if you've played since Alpha it's ok to admit the game actually improved since then and especially since release, it just hasn't gotten any content. The current content isn't enough to satisfy everyone as guildleves were described to be the content for people who have a little time to play...however the game released with only said content so it's easy to understand what some people could mean by "the game has lots of content" because by definition, guidleves, sidequests and the main story arc is content, but it's subjective, because people only deem "dungeons" and raids as content.

I know it doesn't take me 20 minutes to clear my inventory like it did at beta and release and I know the game actually registers my actions unlike it did at release..so the game is improving, but I don't think anyone is defending by saying it's getting better because it is for all intents in purposes.

[Paksenarrion]

Actually it's not, most people want to see the game change. The "yay-ffxiv" people are just sick of all the useless whining.

Just becuase I find threads like this pure crap doesn't mean I'm defending XI, I'm just sick of seeing this dead horse beat beyond recongition.

They might be sick of the useless whining, but in return people become sick of the "yay-FFXIV". Guess it's an evil circle.

[Abriael]

Fine weekly updates are just as good as daily updates still not happening and plenty of games do this.

Information is given when it's ready and final. It's that simple. As yoshida said plenty time (and many other developers said as well,from other games) developing an MMORPG is a matter of sinergy. Systems have to be developed and updated together with others, and things quite often need to be changed even in a very advanced state of development.
Otherwise you have very unpleasant cases (like creative assembly for instance) that throws in promises when they aren't finalyzed, and then ends up breaking half of them, with the fanbase growing angry as hyenas every time one is missed because it was communicated too early.

I'd rather not being fed bull because they need to fill slow weeks to keep the ones that don't have patience happy.

No they should have released the game within it's own region and updated it accordingly like most Korean MMO's do. I don't see the EU or NA communities asking the Korean DEVs of Aion for update's it's a global game and it should be treated as such. If they can't handle being global.

You don't see them? This is rather funny given that the fanbase of korean games is normally extremely bitchy about the fact that they get updates late, and the game released when it's already old and outdated.
Same with the european fanbase of many regional-segregated american games. Go read the countless hate threads spawned by learning that Tera online would have been handled by Frogster in europe.

They can definitely handle being "global". In fact they give us actual game updates at the same time. That's what we're entitled to, since they're part of the product we purchased. Information on future development (or anything else) is not part of the product. It's not something we're entitled to, and as such we should be happy that we're actually getting it in due time (which normally happens to be a few hours of delay, BIG deal).

[Corrderio]

They might be sick of the useless whining, but in return people become sick of the "yay-FFXIV". Guess it's an evil circle.

And who are these "yay-FFXIV" people? Outside of about a handful of people I've seen everyone is welcoming most of the changes happening.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I meant "defending" as in this game has so much content and there have been lots of improvements in the past 7 months. (For example). Because that is what I've read people say in the forum. Isn't that defending a game that is lacking?The FFXIV community is divided at the moment. Yay-FFXIV, and dissapointed-FFXIV.

Edit: and the people that are yay-ffxiv will defend ffxiv no matter what it's about. content, gameplay, etc.

I think you're interpreting "yay-ffxiv" wrong. The people you think are fanboys are just more patient and understanding than others. I know the game isn't perfect and I don't support it in its current state but I have no need to create 50 topics over the same thing. Especially since I know they're working hard on revamping multiple systems. We just have to patient, Rome wasn't built in a day.

I think you're doing the right thing, play Rift/some other game, then come check out FFXIV when they update the battle system and go from there.

[Jinko]

It's sad (and laughable) that people think they have the right to know what's going on behind the scenes, that's not to say I'm not curious of course but they aren't going to bare their soul just because a few people are getting frustrated.

Go play Rift for a couple of week or a month by which time you will be bored and ready to come back to FFXIV.

[Shikyo]

No one is forcing you to play the game and no one is forcing you to be on these forums. If you don't play, you shouldn't be on the forums. Also, you agree with the idea that the game is lacking content...but you don't even have a job at 50 so you have no idea how much content there is. Do us all a favor and leave please.

i dont play but i can check the forums to see if they actually change anything to make it worth turning it on, and the broken class system and battle system makes taking one of thoes to 50 not at all apealing, my main class is armorer and thats sad lol let them add advance classes/Fix the battle system then more ppl will play. and I'll post as i see fit unless u are paying my isp and light bill shove it lol

[Paksenarrion]

I guess it depends on when you started playing the game. I've been playing since launch so I have seen some changes of course. I mean, I still remember trying to find items without the market ward item search. Heck, that was a gigantic improvement alone. But as someone that has been playing since release, I've just got fed up with continuously waiting for a game to improve that was wrong from the beginning. I mean, who releases a game with a gigantic market ward system with retainers for each player... and then don't add in an item search? Just confuses me. How could they forget such a vital thing to an mmo and to a game in general? Even logic would side with an item search... when there is lots of items...

Anyway, regardless I'm still a fan of FFXIV. I know it had potential to be amazing, still does. Just something went wrong along the lines. I think they rushed the release to be honest.

[Dubont]

i dont play but i can check the forums to see if they actually change anything to make it worth turning it on, and the broken class system and battle system makes taking one of thoes to 50 not at all apealing, my main class is armorer and thats sad lol let them add advance classes/Fix the battle system then more ppl will play. and I'll post as i see fit unless u are paying my isp and light bill shove it lol

People like you have no right to be on this forum. "This game is teh sux!" You haven't even played it for any decent amount of time. Your highest is 21. That's about 5hrs of play. You have absolutely no idea what is in this game. The battle system is kinda meh but it's currently being fixed. Advanced classes won't come for quite a while. Absolutely 0 games had advanced classes on release (that I know of) Stop making excuses to hate the game, please.

[Grimm]

People like you have no right to be on this forum. "This game is teh sux!" You haven't even played it for any decent amount of time. Your highest is 21. That's about 5hrs of play. You have absolutely no idea what is in this game. The battle system is kinda meh but it's currently being fixed. Advanced classes won't come for quite a while. Absolutely 0 games had advanced classes on release (that I know of) Stop making excuses to hate the game, please.

He paid for the game so he has every right to be here.

Moving on to more productive talking. I think SE really need's to show something hell maybe open test servers for a few select members testing things that have been done so far. People are saying ''We are playing beta.''
Then let SE treat it like beat throw the buggy content out there and let us do feed back.