Excuses & Daily Updates

[Grimm]

It seems very smart to take time off actually developing the game to create daily reports for people that don't know the meaning of patience. Wait... actually not.

Information needs to be collected from the teams by each team lead, then collected by someone in the team and put in a form that's organic enough for the marketing team. Then the marketing team needs to review it, finally it needs to be translated, and the marketing team from each region needs to look at it again (just to make sure that nothing that shouldn't be said went by during translation).

And you'd want them to do this every day?
I'd rather them.. you know.. actually work on the game to bring in results then catering to some overgrown egos that think they should demand things that no other game developer ever did, hampering such work in the process.

Notice I said AT THE END OF THE WORKING DAY and SMALL BITS of info. Even thing's like ''everything's going along well no roadbumps'' Or even ''70% IT'S ALMOST HERE!''

Don't read parts of the post and alter it to your liking.

EDIT: Also if they can't keep up with four languages they should have region locked the game end of story.

[Abriael]

Notice I said AT THE END OF THE WORKING DAY and SMALL BITS of info. Even thing's like ''everything's going along well no roadbumps'' Or even ''70% IT'S ALMOST HERE!''

Those "small bit of info" need to be collected, polled, elaborated, put in a decent and organic form, examined by the marketing, translated, confirmed, and then delivered. That's not something you do in five minutes at the end of the working day. As usual, there's an immensely oversimplified idea of game development at work here, not to mention of information management in a large team.

EDIT: Also if they can't keep up with four languages they should have region locked the game end of story.

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

[Elexia]

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

Yeah, they should have stuck with being like EVERY OTHER MMO developer out there that doesn't officially support other regions or have a far behind SVN and poorly translated mess for said regions.

That would be the better solution >.>.........

[Grimm]

Those "small bit of info" need to be collected, polled, elaborated, put in a decent and organic form, examined by the marketing, translated, confirmed, and then delivered. That's not something you do in five minutes at the end of the working day. As usual, there's an immensely oversimplified idea of game development at work here, not to mention of information management in a large team.

Fine weekly updates are just as good as daily updates still not happening and plenty of games do this.

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

No they should have released the game within it's own region and updated it accordingly like most Korean MMO's do. I don't see the EU or NA communities asking the Korean DEVs of Aion for update's it's a global game and it should be treated as such. If they can't handle being global.

[Abriael]

Fine weekly updates are just as good as daily updates still not happening and plenty of games do this.

Information is given when it's ready and final. It's that simple. As yoshida said plenty time (and many other developers said as well,from other games) developing an MMORPG is a matter of sinergy. Systems have to be developed and updated together with others, and things quite often need to be changed even in a very advanced state of development.
Otherwise you have very unpleasant cases (like creative assembly for instance) that throws in promises when they aren't finalyzed, and then ends up breaking half of them, with the fanbase growing angry as hyenas every time one is missed because it was communicated too early.

I'd rather not being fed bull because they need to fill slow weeks to keep the ones that don't have patience happy.

No they should have released the game within it's own region and updated it accordingly like most Korean MMO's do. I don't see the EU or NA communities asking the Korean DEVs of Aion for update's it's a global game and it should be treated as such. If they can't handle being global.

You don't see them? This is rather funny given that the fanbase of korean games is normally extremely bitchy about the fact that they get updates late, and the game released when it's already old and outdated.
Same with the european fanbase of many regional-segregated american games. Go read the countless hate threads spawned by learning that Tera online would have been handled by Frogster in europe.

They can definitely handle being "global". In fact they give us actual game updates at the same time. That's what we're entitled to, since they're part of the product we purchased. Information on future development (or anything else) is not part of the product. It's not something we're entitled to, and as such we should be happy that we're actually getting it in due time (which normally happens to be a few hours of delay, BIG deal).

[Shikyo]

Information is given when it's ready and final. It's that simple. As yoshida said plenty time (and many other developers said as well,from other games) developing an MMORPG is a matter of sinergy. Systems have to be developed and updated together with others, and things quite often need to be changed even in a very advanced state of development.
Otherwise you have very unpleasant cases (like creative assembly for instance) that throws in promises when they aren't finalyzed, and then ends up breaking half of them, with the fanbase growing angry as hyenas every time one is missed because it was communicated too early.

I'd rather not being fed bull because they need to fill slow weeks to keep the ones that don't have patience happy.



You don't see them? This is rather funny given that the fanbase of korean games is normally extremely bitchy about the fact that they get updates late, and the game released when it's already old and outdated.
Same with the european fanbase of many regional-segregated american games. Go read the countless hate threads spawned by learning that Tera online would have been handled by Frogster in europe.

They can definitely handle being "global". In fact they give us actual game updates at the same time. That's what we're entitled to, since they're part of the product we purchased. Information on future development (or anything else) is not part of the product. It's not something we're entitled to, and as such we should be happy that we're actually getting it in due time (which normally happens to be a few hours of delay, BIG deal).

1,234! and counting! dude you win!

[Shikyo]

Notice I said AT THE END OF THE WORKING DAY and SMALL BITS of info. Even thing's like ''everything's going along well no roadbumps'' Or even ''70% IT'S ALMOST HERE!''

Don't read parts of the post and alter it to your liking.

EDIT: Also if they can't keep up with four languages they should have region locked the game end of story.

Dont argue with him, This dude has 1229 post all defending this bs thats going on really dude 1229 post? O.o; wtf you have got to work on the forum team because if not thats just sad....

On the original post i agree 100%

Grimm dont argue back and forth with the XIV fanboys you wont win, they can sit there and post 24/7 while were at work and having a life.
Then the reinforcements come all boasting 800+ post of pure XIV power you can't win lmao,
But I agree with your post.
Oh Crap I hear them coming.....

[Dubont]

Dont argue with him, This dude has 1229 post all defending this bs thats going on really dude 1229 post? O.o; wtf you have got to work on the forum team because if not thats just sad....

On the original post i agree 100%

Dude dont argue back and forth with the XIV fanboys you wont win, they can sit there and post 24/7 while were at work and having a life.
Then the reinforcements come all boasting 800+ post of pure XIV power you can win lmao,
But I agree with your post.
Oh Crap I hear them coming.....

No one is forcing you to play the game and no one is forcing you to be on these forums. If you don't play, you shouldn't be on the forums. Also, you agree with the idea that the game is lacking content...but you don't even have a job at 50 so you have no idea how much content there is. Do us all a favor and leave please.

[Grimm]

No one is forcing you to play the game and no one is forcing you to be on these forums. If you don't play, you shouldn't be on the forums. Also, you agree with the idea that the game is lacking content...but you don't even have a job at 50 so you have no idea how much content there is. Do us all a favor and leave please.

Besides a few NM what is at 50?

[Dubont]

Besides a few NM what is at 50?

there isn't much at 50 itself, but there is a lot that he is missing between the ranks of..24? and 50. I agree though, that this game doesn't have a lot of content for those that have multiple jobs at 50...but imo, there is plenty of content for the levels/ranks between 1 and 50.