Excuses & Daily Updates

[Elexia]

Ironically people that are cynical seem to think anything logical is an "excuse" or "white knight" or "defending". Rift wasn't rushed out the door, XIV was. Rift doesn't need a complete foundation overhaul (It's WoW with a different storyline using a basic concept from XI - Campaign/Besieged/Dominion Ops), XIV does.

I don't know about SE being hurt by their silence, as they have their massive offline library, including PSN releases that's doing very, very well and XI, it's just people are growing more and more critical over this game they're not seeing the bigger picture that when you need to redesign an entire MMORPG, you're going to be busy, and looking at the Japanese forums and reading what Yoshida wrote, they're just not sitting on their hands like some want to truly believe.

[Cairdeas]

Lol. They should have kept Tanaka around in one way or another.

Hes still acting as a Consultant on the project.

[Abriael]

Notice I said AT THE END OF THE WORKING DAY and SMALL BITS of info. Even thing's like ''everything's going along well no roadbumps'' Or even ''70% IT'S ALMOST HERE!''

Those "small bit of info" need to be collected, polled, elaborated, put in a decent and organic form, examined by the marketing, translated, confirmed, and then delivered. That's not something you do in five minutes at the end of the working day. As usual, there's an immensely oversimplified idea of game development at work here, not to mention of information management in a large team.

EDIT: Also if they can't keep up with four languages they should have region locked the game end of story.

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

[LuxLex]

making of dvd... I think I forgot it existed.

[Elexia]

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

Yeah, they should have stuck with being like EVERY OTHER MMO developer out there that doesn't officially support other regions or have a far behind SVN and poorly translated mess for said regions.

That would be the better solution >.>.........

[Corrderio]

Ironically people that are cynical seem to think anything logical is an "excuse" or "white knight" or "defending". Rift wasn't rushed out the door, XIV was. Rift doesn't need a complete foundation overhaul (It's WoW with a different storyline using a basic concept from XI - Campaign/Besieged/Dominion Ops), XIV does.

I don't know about SE being hurt by their silence, as they have their massive offline library, including PSN releases that's doing very, very well and XI, it's just people are growing more and more critical over this game they're not seeing the bigger picture that when you need to redesign an entire MMORPG, you're going to be busy, and looking at the Japanese forums and reading what Yoshida wrote, they're just not sitting on their hands like some want to truly believe.

Stop with the common sense!

And in case you didn't know, I'm being sarcastic.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Thanks for posting another redundant thread. Patience is a virtue people, considering how much he posted on crafting shows they're pretty much revamping the game from top to bottom. There's a lot going on behind the scenes, more than we will ever know, but all we can do is be patient.

Yoshi-P posting tidbits of news isn't going to make things better, considering he posted something new and now people are complaining that SE isn't translating fast enough or everything should be in English. If he posted something like "Today we worked on the battle system.", people would want more, they would want specifics. The info is coming, all you have to do is sit on your butt and press F5 until next week.

[Paksenarrion]

I did watch it, first thing I did actually when I got the Limited Edition (While letting the game install)... Everything on the DVD was already up on youtube BEFORE the limited editions was released so I had already seen like 90% of it. =( Super fail.
But honestly, I'm tired of making excuses for SE. So now I'm just sitting and waiting till when I'll want to go back to playing FFXIV. Spending my spare time playing Rift and other games until then. (And using whatever time leftover after that on the FFXIV forum!)

[Grimm]

Those "small bit of info" need to be collected, polled, elaborated, put in a decent and organic form, examined by the marketing, translated, confirmed, and then delivered. That's not something you do in five minutes at the end of the working day. As usual, there's an immensely oversimplified idea of game development at work here, not to mention of information management in a large team.

Fine weekly updates are just as good as daily updates still not happening and plenty of games do this.

So they should have deprieved thousands of people of the game because some don't have a bit of patience and think that they're entitled to "daily reports" (something that's absolutely unprecedented in this industry) just because they bought a game?

No they should have released the game within it's own region and updated it accordingly like most Korean MMO's do. I don't see the EU or NA communities asking the Korean DEVs of Aion for update's it's a global game and it should be treated as such. If they can't handle being global.

[Shikyo]

Notice I said AT THE END OF THE WORKING DAY and SMALL BITS of info. Even thing's like ''everything's going along well no roadbumps'' Or even ''70% IT'S ALMOST HERE!''

Don't read parts of the post and alter it to your liking.

EDIT: Also if they can't keep up with four languages they should have region locked the game end of story.

Dont argue with him, This dude has 1229 post all defending this bs thats going on really dude 1229 post? O.o; wtf you have got to work on the forum team because if not thats just sad....

On the original post i agree 100%

Grimm dont argue back and forth with the XIV fanboys you wont win, they can sit there and post 24/7 while were at work and having a life.
Then the reinforcements come all boasting 800+ post of pure XIV power you can't win lmao,
But I agree with your post.
Oh Crap I hear them coming.....