Not enough stuff to get me emotionally invested

[Winterclaw]

One of the big things about the FF series was that for a long time, story and character development was a big part of the games. Starting about FF4 and really important for FF6-10, things like romance, comedy, and drama were key components of what made FF great. Then das merger happened. After that, it seems like SE started to lose a lot of things that made it good. Romantic elements started taking a back seat. Lightheartedness to offset the heavy settings started disappearing. It started getting harder to connect to the heroes emotionally and the villians, while someone you wanted to defeat on a cerebral level, aren't really that bad on an emotional level. In other words, I'm defeating them to finish the game, not because I want to defeat them.

Sephiroth? Total bastard, even before Aeris (which was overkill if you ask me). Kefka? Totally insane. He's a guy you just had to take down. Seymour? Despite his outward demeanor, his cold-blooded ruthlessness was chilling. Where the other two would slay those who got in their way, he'd kill or sacrifice those people in a way in which he'd gain directly from their deaths (Anima, his plans for Yuna, his father's position).

So I have to ask, where's the comedy?
Where's a real villain you want to take down?
Where's the romance?
Where's the drama?
Where's the story?

It seems like it was a mistake for SE not to include these things, particularly in an age were people want personal connections to their entertainment. People have expectations for this series and IMO SE is doing a bad example of managing those expectations as well as not meeting them.

[Betelgeuzah]

I guess you haven't seen the Judge yet.

The online FF's don't lay out the whole story at once. When we are done with vanilla, the first chapter of the epic is done. Expansions flesh out and introduce new villains.

The lore and premise allows for a great story to be made, but the game has to get better first of all.

[Kallera]

I guess you haven't seen the Judge yet.

The online FF's don't lay out the whole story at once. When we are done with vanilla, the first chapter of the epic is done. Expansions flesh out and introduce new villains.

The lore and premise allows for a great story to be made, but the game has to get better first of all.

Its true, take the Shadow Lord for instance, first the main villain 1, than not a villain, but a tool for villain 2, in an apocalytic plot whose prevention of villain 3 awaking only cause villain 2 to act again, then comes villain 4, who is trying to evade capture from villain 5 to prevent another apocalypse, only for villain 5 to be possessed by a megadeus and fail to carry it out because villain 4 didn't attack him, you did. And finally, go back in time for shenanagains and fight villain 1, but at the end of the storyline fight villain 7.

[Winterclaw]

I started in Girdania. It was building towards one way, then all of that seems like it is dropped and I'm told to go to the desert city. So at this point (still haven't bothered to go there) it feels like my chain was being yanked for 15 levels and I've ended up more POed by the plot than anything else. If I wanted to play in the desert, I would have started there.

[Betelgeuzah]

So when the story takes you to new places, you go "wahh I want to be in this forest forever"?

That's kinda the point of the story. What's gonna happen when they tell you to go to Ishgard? Or Ala Mhigo? Madness!

[Kato3y]

An online game can't be like an offline one. Especially about the storyline.

[Ostia]

An online game can't be like an offline one. Especially about the storyline.

Half true, i can understand not revealing all of the story, but so little ? really ? you get to R50 and nothing ? not one villain ? Lmao!

[Betelgeuzah]

Half true, i can understand not revealing all of the story, but so little ? really ? you get to R50 and nothing ? not one villain ? Lmao!

http://www.ffxivcore.com/index.php?a...attach_id=6906

Not a siiiingle villain. Not even close. Nope. 50 ranks and.. n o t h i n g a t a l l.

And that guy > shadow lord, anyday.

[Alcide]

http://www.ffxivcore.com/index.php?a...attach_id=6906

Not a siiiingle villain. Not even close. Nope. 50 ranks and.. n o t h i n g a t a l l.

And that guy > shadow lord, anyday.

Damn, that CS is so cool *-* You can tell that both the villain and the good gang have the potential to be amazing characters.
And Papalymo and Yda... <3

[Ostia]

http://www.ffxivcore.com/index.php?a...attach_id=6906

Not a siiiingle villain. Not even close. Nope. 50 ranks and.. n o t h i n g a t a l l.

And that guy > shadow lord, anyday.

Grahf ? Really ? We dont know if he is a villain, for all we know he can be one of those tragic/villain/hero NPC that gets in your way and in the end was trying to save the world, or he can be a real villain or whatever, the point is, WE DONT KNOW ***, about him or anybody in the empire, 50R of gameplay and all we see is a grafh look alike and thats it