Thi is nonsense.. This is NOT beta anymore..

[Design]

Hey this is about what happens with MMO's when they first come out.

Vanilla WoW's launch: Unplayable for close to 48 hours (People even forget that Blizzard shut down servers for 24 hours to "increase" their capacity half way through the expansion) TBC: Oh you lost all your stuff due to the server crashing 15 times, whoops.

Guild Wars 2 launch: Whoops, we didn't make the servers large enough for everyone to play. Force crashed the server at least every hour for 72 hours.

Guild Wars 1 launch: What's a server? Oh we forgot to give you guys extra ones, sit in that 2 hour queue to log in...SIT IN IT

SWG: Yeah that mess was interesting....

City of Heroes/City of Villains: You wanna play your game? Good luck, for the next 2 weeks cuz, likelihood is you won't.....

Planetside: You call that lag? Server crashed 22 times in under an hour due to volume of people logging in....

Rift: You wanna do what? Zone out? How do you zone out from your Desktop?

Diablo 3: ERROR 37. NO NEED TO CONCERN YOURSELF HERE.


Anyone who thinks a game fresh out of a beta launches perfectly is stupid. Games going from Beta -> Live always have issues due to how the process is handled. Also in Beta they never get the sheer volume of people they do when it goes live. I'm happy they are fixing it now instead of Tuesday when everyone else who couldn't pre-order get's super pissed.

[Felenah]

Hmm fyi I did ping both the NA/Eu server set and the JP server set and received a difference of about 10 to 15 ms average from the pacific time zone, soo if the updates and errors on the NA servers are bothersome just head over to a JP server.

In all honesty I'm not all that worried, errors and bugs will appear and get fixed. ^^

[Elvina]

Ehh what world are you living in? There are always problems when you get early access, and when a game goes to live launch. Rift, Tera, WoW, Everquest, Guild Wars 1 & 2, even FF11 had problems when it first came out, but this is expected with any new release.
There will always be bugs in a game, but they do try to fix them in a timely manner.

Hey nothing and no one is perfect all we can do is wait for them to come up with a solution for the problem, so maybe in the meantime you could try a little patience, but if bugs really bug you then maybe mmo games are not for you.

[Aisu_Kuriimu]

First of all 3102 IS fixed.

No it's not. I'm having that 3102 error right now.

[Valiant]

Here's some info... we didn't have nearly as many issues with 1.0 as we do 2.0 in terms of accessability... if they rewrote the game as a patch(or group of patches to be more precise) or expansion we would have alot less issues.

[Dendoushi]

Smoothly? lol..
Nothing has gone smoothly about the release of this game.
Redeeming codes was messed up.
Beta codes were messed up.
Registration was messed up.
Characters were lost.
People spent hours and hours in 300 people chat ques, just to get kicked out of que.
Email support did not respond for WEEKS to problems in email.
Phone support went to a BUSY SIGNAL?!
Open beta was down for half the time with game breaking bugs..
Half the cinematics is all some people can see.

Would like to point some of those issues you mentioned are not even Square's fault. For example the cinematic issue with half being displayed. That was a horribly done security update by Microsoft involving video securities. It is not just this games cinematics that were affected by this.

[Skylendor]

I'll state it again, since people only ever read the last page of any thread:

We paid for early access. It's not a beta. It is the FINISHED RETAIL PRODUCT. SE is absolutely responsible for how shitty this EA has been. There's no argument about it. That's what they promised, and either they're guilty of false advertising, or their EA (which again, is effectively a three day early FULL LAUNCH) has been absolute shit thus far.

Second, why people are comparing it to other launches is absurd. First of all, you don't strive to be like your competitors in business, you strive to be better, because better product = more sales. The fact that you people are excusing this sad excuse for a launch by saying "they're all shitty" is just sheer insanity. As the consumer, you decide on the quality of the product you buy. If it's bad, don't buy it. Don't just be satisfied because it's "not worse" than any other launch you've experienced.

Also, aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes? If game launches have been this bad for 5, 10, however many years, why are more people not complaining?????????????? These launches continue to be shitty because these companies don't have to put any effort into them. The ignorant, mindless fanboy masses will still stand in lines 500 strong and THROW their money at them. You're not getting anything you don't ask for, so start asking for what you paid for.

For the record, I think this is far and away the most fun MMO I've ever played. I think the controls on the PS3 are very well thought out, very natural and easy. I think the gameplay is engaging and thrilling and wonderful. I think the crafting system is brilliant.

The problem is, those things don't matter when the server is down. The lobby screen isn't so beautiful that I want to look at it for 3 hours. And don't tell me to go do something else. I paid for a service, and I expect that service. To have 2 emergency maintenance in the first 24 hours of launch is laughable.

EDIT:

Anyone who deluded themselves into thinking a HEADSTART is "release" for an mmo obviously have never been through MMO headstarts before. The headstart is a perk that the dev's throw our way for those of us willing to preorder. It is no more than another beta test that allows the users to carry over character information to the live release. EVERY mmo headstart had downtime and maintenance for numerious bugs. Aion, Rift, SWTOR i could go on and on with all the mmo whose headstarts ended up being mostly downtime. If this is your first mmo headstart then let this be a lesson to you. Its nothing more than another beta test. Expect it next time.

This made me lol. Another poor shlub calling this another beta. Settle for your subpar product.

[worldofneil]

why are more people not complaining??????????????

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I'm having a great time! Sure I can't do instances/dungeons that some of my quests/story need, but I've been levelling other jobs, doing field levequests and just generally having a blast!

Hopefully they'll be fixed by tomorrow, but I can see tons of fun things to do if they're not!

[Skylendor]

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I'm having a great time! Sure I can't do instances/dungeons that some of my quests/story need, but I've been levelling other jobs, doing field levequests and just generally having a blast!

Hopefully they'll be fixed by tomorrow, but I can see tons of fun things to do if they're not!

I can absolutely respect what you've said, but my point is that all of those fun things don't matter when you can't do them because the servers are down for maintenance.

[Schtick]

I'm happy for you mister level 22 Conjurer.

However, those of us that didn't play beta4, and couldn't wake up at 4am...
Hit level 10, and cannot continue. No professions. No levequests. No transportation to select new classes.

Yeh.. not much of a fun release day for me.