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    Just a quick question to all those people posting smug comments about how this is the world of MMOs and how launches are naturally supposed to be shitty and all that: what the hell is wrong with you people? You've paid for this with your hard earned(?) money, some of you months ago. No, early access is not a surprise, it's not a desert you got on the house at the end of dinner just because you were nice to the waitress, it was part of the deal all along: you pay IN ADVANCE and you get to take the game, the fully functional game, for a spin before anybody else does.

    Yes, MMOs are complicated creatures with numerous needs, and fully preparing one to be released into the wild is indeed a very very very hard thing to do. But that doesn't mean you have an excuse to screw things up every single time. "Oh, you know, going into space is... complicated. So, yeah, quite a lot of our space shuttles explode when we try to launch them, but you see that's actually normal because, well, not fucking up is hard."

    Cave Johnson would be disappointed in you.
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    And even after the 2hr maintenance... duty finder and instances are broken again already.
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    Hate to say it guys but had this been the Japanese servers this game would have been delayed a month. Because this is only the North American/EU servers we are considered second class by this company. As others have said this is a finished product this is not beta anymore these excuses will no longer fly when money is involved. Ill bet you even tho this is happening SE will expect us to pay our full 14.99 instead of crediting us for downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I paid for this game "again" to get into Early access, because I am 1.0, not legacy...
    If you were going to have issues like this, you should of extended Beta testing. We are NOT in beta anymore and all this maintenance and bugs are unacceptable for a "finished"
    game..

    I can't overstate how disappointed I am at this.. You should of extended the beta if this is how release was going to go..
    We are NOT beta testers anymore..

    You said you fixed 9000 and 3102.. I can't tell..
    You should of tested better.. You should of tested for 24 full hours "Like I said before" AFTER you implemented the patches..
    6 hours is NOT stress testing, at minimal server peak load times..
    I have made games and scripted them, I know..
    This is what happens when you try to rush a game..
    So far this is a very smooth launch. It's nowhere near as bad as the launches or Everquest, FFXI, WoW, Guild Wars, Diablo 3, Sim City and many others. Just calm down, take a few breaths and relax.
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    Gotta love the fanboys, how can you call this a good launch when you can't even continue the story because the duty servers are down.
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    First off a MMO is on a much larger scale than an Indie developed game there will always be bugs hell im betting at least 2 months down the road a few more might just show up out of nowhere.
    You can never fully prepare any MMO to release without any problems.
    Was doing Early Access on the Weekend a bad thing? Maybe. I doubt they have as many people in Customer Support as they would for "Normal Business hours".
    If you seriously Pre-ordered just so you can play during the "Early Access" you have never worked on an MMO project before.
    (PS ive done some work on Ragnarok Online Their code is awful)
    Expect a lot of downtime fixing things square hasn't really been on top of the MMO market, even World of Warcraft took a very long time to figure out how to deal with running an MMO. (And activision is trying very hard to ruin it in every way)
    Give them some time and support good games are not release date gems, they are usually worked on and improved by the company as often as possible long after release day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle7D8 View Post
    So far this is a very smooth launch. It's nowhere near as bad as the launches or Everquest, FFXI, WoW, Guild Wars, Diablo 3, Sim City and many others. Just calm down, take a few breaths and relax.
    So basically what you are saying is that if there's bad service everywhere it's ok to have bad service? WTF?! Am I missing something? I mean, yeah, ok, if you eat shit for 10 years you get used to the taste, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still shit.

    LE for the next poster: and wouldn't you like to hear about one for a change? Well you're never going to get one if you're constantly in a placid state of "it could have been worse".
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    Last edited by SethLex; 08-25-2013 at 04:29 AM.

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    im sorry to tell you OP but there will always be issues with launching an MMO. I havent heard of a single one that didnt at launch
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    funny you guys really are fanbois problems with congestion is one thing but these are not those kind of issues and why aren't the jap servers down too and just na/eu servers with all these issues well good luck guys im not buying this game.(oh and I pre-order this game but spending 3 hours monkeying around with that has completely killed any good feelings I had left for this game after open beta's 3102)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylendor View Post
    It's nice that SE has people like you to defend them. They can freely say that Early Access is "the retail product early", and then have people like you insist that it's another beta phase, effectively removing all of SE's responsibility for their errors.

    If it's advertised as the retail product early, I expect the retail product. Early.

    And to anyone complaining that their local game shop didn't have EA codes, unless you live in Antarctica you have no reason to complain.
    Early Access or release, these unfortunate hiccups happen. You're only complaining about something extremely frequent in MMO launches. I'm not defending anyone here, I'm merely stating the obvious. It sucks but you learn to deal with it after playing MMOs for as long as I have. Crying about it never helped anyone.
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    Last edited by JoshMoshes; 08-25-2013 at 04:36 AM.

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