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    Buffs that last a bit longer

    I think buffing people is not perse fun and i would like it if buffs would stick on a while longer. Maybe adjust lenght of protect and shell to 30 minutes, shock spikes/stygian spikes to 15 minutes and keep stoneskin as it is?

    Who else gets tired of doing the whole rebuff thing each fight?
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    Shell and Protect are annoying to cast all the time. It's pretty pointless to give them such a low timer. It makes sense in a single player FF game but not so much in an MMO. It doesn't honestly add anything to the fights. I think spells like shock spikes and stoneskin are fine as is however.
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    IMo the problem isn't the cast/recast...its the fact most of them aren't worth casting every 5 min.

    I'm fine with protect/shell being a 5 min duration if they had expressive effect (similar to FFXI's phalanx effect in potency)...but right now they are barely noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    IMo the problem isn't the cast/recast...its the fact most of them aren't worth casting every 5 min.

    I'm fine with protect/shell being a 5 min duration if they had expressive effect (similar to FFXI's phalanx effect in potency)...but right now they are barely noticeable.
    The effect actually seems to be even weaker than XI's protect & shell. Which makes the duration even more bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimir View Post
    The effect actually seems to be even weaker than XI's protect & shell. Which makes the duration even more bizarre.
    Very true. But i'm looking foward to the balancing some skill/spells might be receiving...maybe they become worth using (hopefully becoming good enough for a 5 min duration buff)
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    This is also true. Still, not having to mess with them for 30 mins atleast is a nice feature. It would also promote people casting it on passer-by's as form of courtesy.
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    There's no reason these buffs shouldn't be an hour each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    There's no reason these buffs shouldn't be an hour each.
    Honestly, I'd be for hour long buffs...but with the current system, I don't think it'd work.

    If each buff lasted 30 minutes to an hour, what's to stop someone who's leveled conj/thaum/whoever from just throwing those specific buffs into their action bar, casting them, then moving them out for whatever else they want? Wouldn't be hard to set up a macro to set up your entire action bar as buffs, cast them all, then switch them back to whatever attacks/abilities you typically use. As it stands right now, it's entirely too obnoxious to do this every five minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martyr View Post
    Honestly, I'd be for hour long buffs...but with the current system, I don't think it'd work.

    If each buff lasted 30 minutes to an hour, what's to stop someone who's leveled conj/thaum/whoever from just throwing those specific buffs into their action bar, casting them, then moving them out for whatever else they want? Wouldn't be hard to set up a macro to set up your entire action bar as buffs, cast them all, then switch them back to whatever attacks/abilities you typically use. As it stands right now, it's entirely too obnoxious to do this every five minutes.
    for this just make it so the buffs wear off as soon as there removed from your bar, so the buffs have to remain on you action bar to remain active
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    I agree the current duration is too short. Not all of them are too short tho. There is Defender, which is at the acceptable 30 min duration. The rest should be moved up to match.
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