Buffs that last a bit longer

[LazyKz]

With such pulse-pounding excitement like this, who WOULDN'T want to do it EVERY 5 MINUTES!?!??! WHOAMG!!!!

lmao.... you see??? this is stratagy to keep mages from falling asleep like WHTs did in FFXI with NIN tanks.

Who knows... maybe they will make us go upto the mob after its downed to loot it!!! OMG this is going to get hard everyone...

<also sarcasm>

[Rentahamster]

Holy cow, how did this thread get so huge?

Buffs need to be longer. Spell buffs, self buffs, all of them.

Spell buffs like protect and shell need to last at least 5 minutes, with stats playing a great role in modifying its effectiveness, and its duration.

There are a bunch of more fun things to do besides buff every 3 minutes. Nowadays, I don't even bother buffing besides the occasional shockspikes, because it's more effective if I just all out nuke.

That means the need to:

1. Make the buff last longer since I probably won't bother to cast it again when it wears off after 3 min

2. Actually make it more useful so that I care when it wears off. Back before the November patch in the raptor party days, we actually cared and took notice when protect and shell wore off since it was a large factor in the battle.

[Jinko]

Um Renta both Protect and Shell last 5 minutes on CON, only on THM do they last 3 mins.

I agree though that before the nov patch both spells were actually worth casting now I couldn't care less if they wear off.

Tedious? In MMO's, don't you grind? Isn't that considered being tedious as well? That was a very hypocritcal statement.

I think they should make the buffs more powerful than a 30 minute timer.

Hardly Hypocritical, I actually enjoy grinding if there is a complex and interesting battle system, casting buffs in this game is comparable to being a haste-whore in FF11, who the hell could possibly enjoy that ?

... Waits for I enjoyed playing RDM in FF11.

[DeadRiser]

Um Renta both Protect and Shell last 5 minutes on CON, only on THM do they last 3 mins.

I agree though that before the nov patch both spells were actually worth casting now I couldn't care less if they wear off.


Hardly Hypocritical, I actually enjoy grinding if there is a complex and interesting battle system, casting buffs in this game is comparable to being a haste-whore in FF11, who the hell could possibly enjoy that ?

... Waits for I enjoyed playing RDM in FF11.

I mean grinding is tedious. You do the same thing, over and over again. But whatev.
Nope, didn't play XI so sorry to burst your bubble.
This is the last time I'm gonna say it, just increase the effect of it then you have a useful spell.

[Rentahamster]

Um Renta both Protect and Shell last 5 minutes on CON, only on THM do they last 3 mins.

lmao, so it does. You can read my wishes as wanting it for 5 in on THM and 10 min on CON, then lol

[Mugiwara]

ok, ill take renta's 5min and 10min, and increased effect(only cuz its little to nothing atm), but more than that and you are just being lazy.

[RichardButte]

ok, ill take renta's 5min and 10min, and increased effect(only cuz its little to nothing atm), but more than that and you are just being lazy.

Lazy in an MMO is wanting things to come easy or free.

Lazy ≠ not wanting to deal with boring, repetitive game mechanics for marginal benefit.

[Akuun]

Sorry, didn't have time to read through all the arguments.
The problem I see with 5 min buffs is not the casting every 5 mins. It's the getting a party of people to stand still in a cluster every 5 mins and not just run to the next mob. Even during combat parties spread out due to ranges and positioning for optimized damage and defending. With 30 min buffs like we've seen in XI and many other MMOs, it is much easier to get people gathered once in a while vs every few mins. The 5 min buff would have worked better in XI anyway due to the nature of camping and use of a puller. But the very nature of XIV is for the party to be mobile and just the organization of getting everyone to move in the same direction can be quite challenging as it is, ha ha.

Cheers

[Delmontyb]

Yes please!!! With the old system, this made since, but with the new one, casting it every five minutes is annoying... What would be excellent with these changes, would be to introduce new spells that were short buff spells, etc.

So in short, we need more spells and abilities, as well as make the ones we currently have last much longer... You can increase the MP cost of those abilities too, I don't mine.

[Punxsutawney]

Protect + shell should last 10 minutes and not pull more hate than provoke or taunt.
Shock spike should last 5 minutes
Stygian spike and stoneskin should last 3 minutes.

Also, THM and CON should have like a rnk 25 quest that teaches them an ability that lasts 1 minute (10 minute CD) and doubles the length of these buffs when casted under the effects of this ability.