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[Reika]

Added the pictures with some helpful info to the OP.

TL;DR Get darklight and ilvl90 job gear. Don't waste your tomes on those crafting mats.

I'll also add for SE Devs:

There are a number of ways you could have "balanced the longevity of the existing content" instead of what you really did, which was shaft the crafter.

1) Wipe legacy characters. Not the one I would want either, but that would have definitely prolonged existing content. Instead YOU guys chose to let us keep our levels, gear, and materials from 1.0, thus YOU guys made it possible for those few to just basically skip right to the end, doing only story quests. I wouldn't want you to do it either, but if you REALLY wanted to prolong the content, this would have been the best way.
2) DONT LET PEOPLE HAVE TOMES OF MYTHOLOGY YET! next best way to prolong content and you jacked that up.
3) Increase the cost of darklight gear as well. But you didn't, so people will be running around in gear good enough for bahamut anyways and it is much less costly, time-wise as well, than crafted crap

2 and 3 go hand in hand. You could have done this some other way, but you took what you thought was the best approach. Guess what, your approach didn't do what you wanted it to do.

[des]

You seem pretty mad Reika, but I can understand you, they massively messed up the balance between crafted gear and the darklight stuff. As it is now there is basically no point in having crafters in the game, I mean not for anything productive and related to having a benefit in endgame. Hell, since there is no more equipment breaking with melding, no spiritbonding because people just get AF/Darklight/i90+ stuff, quest that give you all equipment from 1-50 and so on that there is basically nothing you need a crafter for, except repairing your gear and crafting your relic weapon!

I really love crafting/gathering but it's just sad to have invested so much time in 1.x and now for a big middle finger and a "trolled" from the dev team.

[SukoshiSeppen]

Everyone believes that SE screwed up making this gear when I reality they may have something bigger planned....look how many items can be made that requirr the tier before to be made. Whos to say that in the next crafting update it wont take the current ilvl 70 and a few new mats to make ilvl 90 or 100 down the road. They did mention they were going to release higher level crafting recipes as dungeon drops.

[des]

Sure, they always may do things ... that might happen in 6-18 months or never.

[darkm0d]

I think SE 100% ruined all crafting as soon as they decided to make the game an amusement park MMO. If you're cheap, just run a dungeon numerous times.


You can 100% sustain your entire gear from 1 to 50 through quest rewards, then through dungeon gear / GC gear without spending a fucking dime. SE completely ruined the real charm of crafting when they implemented that style of MMO, way way before this darklight abomination.


You also used to be able to break gear, when crafted gear was amazing in 1.0. Having the chance to break it gave reason for more crafted gear to be produced. Now, in a much more casual game, those sort of ecosystems are completely ruined.

It's pretty sad to see. I've never EVER been a big crafter, but I was / still am very interested in something to fill the time / keep me entertained. It's sad to see how in flux the crafting situation is. The massive casual downgrade to so many things really made most crafted gear rather obsolete.

Tiny edit: This is the first thread I have ever subscribed to. I'm really curious what SE's take on this is. It needs a serious rethink, not some generic dev response of "The way it is now is because blah blah and we will monitor how things blah blah". That sort of mentality is just the worst. SE can't blame the Playsta... I mean "Memory Limitations" on this issue, so hopefully they give this entire system a good look over.

[Ragz]

You complain about SE going casual, but only casual would settle for Darklight.

[Reika]

Is that why you're wearing Darklight :/ and this has nothing to do with hardcore vs casual anyways. If you're hardcore(stupid) enough to waste thousands of tomes on those crafting mats, be my guest. Smart people won't. I also don't remember complaining about anything becoming casual, don't go bunching everyone together for your own convenience.

[Ragz]

Is that why you're wearing Darklight :/ and this has nothing to do with hardcore vs casual anyways. If you're hardcore(stupid) enough to waste thousands of tomes on those crafting mats, be my guest. Smart people won't. I also don't remember complaining about anything becoming casual, don't go bunching everyone together for your own convenience.

Obviously I was replying to the dude above me? Who said "The massive casual downgrade to so many things really made most crafted gear rather obsolete."

I wear DL due to 1.0 leftover and 4k tome I had from 1.0 multi meld, so I have SOMETHING on first couple of days. I have HQ i70 accessories with 5 meld and am working on more.

[Reika]

Icic, my bad. My frustration caused it.

[Ragz]

It's cool. My feeling is kinda opposite of yours, that the quality of crafted gear is a bit TOO good. Now it doesn't seem like it, but as more and more people grinding and tome materials become available on market (some already go for around 30k each), it's very hard for really exclusive items to shine. I suspect once they release i90 recipes it will be true for those as well.

You are judging on the effort of those item from basically 10 days of experience. But the game will last longer than that, and by the 3 month mark, or 6 month mark, it is entirely possible and likely that those same item would be very attainable.