[suggestion] Radically lower the level requirement for Raise/Resurrect

[Abriael]

I guess the main question is do we really need raise?

But yes we do. I don't know about you, but when/if I die I'd love to be able to employ the "free" time while I wait for my resurrection sickness to expire by doing something constructive and convenient. Bathroom, Coffee, reading mail...
That's definitely more convenient/constructive than running back from point A to point B watching a scenario that I already explored to utter boredom.

[viion]

I think it would be good if reraise actually existed (as it doesnt...)

But I also agree its way to high, and people are still stupid and return when theres mages around who can raise, hell even low levels I equip it on every class I do, I join behast or such and i say if you die i will raise so you dont lose SP, but they return anyway like a moron

There needs to be a raise animation with better indication such as a prompt window like XI had. so its in your face when you get raised.

I dont agree on the thm/conj only ideas as its just stupid due to the work around being: Change class, wait 1 minute. Not exactly difficult so its just more tedious nonsense.

[YUGON]

I like XP loss penalty.

Ppl say that have to wait more than 2 min is enough punishment. In XI, you had to wait 5 min If I remember wll, plus you had XP Loss Penalty. Plus you didn't had "nodes" in the middle of your trips.

Raise at mid levels would be better, and XP Loss (with or without, I don't care, level down) is a must.

[Abriael]

I like XP loss penalty.

Ppl say that have to wait more than 2 min is enough punishment. In XI, you had to wait 5 min If I remember wll, plus you had XP Loss Penalty. Plus you didn't had "nodes" in the middle of your trips.

Raise at mid levels would be better, and XP Loss (with or without, I don't care, level down) is a must.

No. Thanks. The next thing you'll tell us is that XP loss makes fighting "challenging"

[YUGON]

Not fighting challenging, but what If you die right now??

What is the worse that you think??

"OMG, I've to walk 5 min to the same spot!"

That's not a punishment, that's a shame. Plus as I said, in XI you had to wait 5 min, plus you had XP loss and didn't had nodes in the way.

Then, with XP loss, or some other penalty, Raise will have a reason to be. Right know, If you don't have a mage with Raise right there, is better to use Return, because it will be faster than waiting for your mage friend to Raise you.

[Abriael]

Not fighting challenging, but what If you die right now??

What is the worse that you think??

"OMG, I've to walk 5 min to the same spot!"

That's not a punishment, that's a shame. Plus as I said, in XI you had to wait 5 min, plus you had XP loss and didn't had nodes in the way.

Then, with XP loss, or some other penalty, Raise will have a reason to be. Right know, If you don't have a mage with Raise right there, is better to use Return, because it will be faster than waiting for your mage friend to Raise you.

Walking back is a timesink.

XP loss is a timesink (you lose the time you invested gaining that XP).

There's no practical difference.

[Payadopa]

A penalty shouldn't be as harsh as XI's, but not as weak as what we have right now. Though, many people in XI refused to help because they were afraid of loosing their precious XP what I respect. But the ignorable penalty in XIV that doesn't encourage people to think (as much), along with that weird aggro icon... It's just too easy.
I could live with an EXP loss as long as you can't delevel. But that's just me.

[Xenor]

Most people doing hard content where you're likely to die are rank 50, I don't see why we should be immune to SP loss if this was implemented. Either everyone gets it and people are allowed to delevel all the way to rank 1 or no one gets it. I'm glad the majority of people are against this.

[Ranka]

Ya um people, 38 is not a unattainable rank to get, just rank it up. And having a higher rank raise is pointless unless it does not give weakened. I say they are good where they are at. If anything, reraise should be added around 50, if at all, but there is no reason to lower raise.

[Abriael]

Ya um people, 38 is not a unattainable rank to get, just rank it up.

No one said that 38 is "unattainable". There's simply absolutely no reason for a large chunk of group leveling up not to have this rather basic function.