Market Wards Population Fix?

[Dreamer]

Each subsection (Battle, Spell, Mender, etc) needs to be capped and/or require retainers to be at a stall instead of dawdling and cluttering up the floor. Would need to enlarge the number of stalls by 2-3 times, but I think it would funnel players to the other wards once Ul'dah fills up.

I usually drop my wares at Gridania just out of principle. Surprisingly, I haven't had any problem selling stuff.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

@Jed

I suggest playing ffxi now. getting gear at any level was hard. You had to go to jeuno to buy it. And unless your 20 with chocobo lisens traveling not all that easy and it was time consuming. And windy was never a popular town when I played so getting gear even since ps2 days was never easy.
And eveb still gear is pricey on alot of stuff. Linking them will help out a ton and prevent an issue down the road. unless ffxi recently linked the AH's no one sells anything in the 3 nations if you do find something it was rare. On;y crystals and I'm assuning its out of habit.

[Ayaka]

Uldah right now is overpopulated because of several reasons (there are people that have problems running the game while in gridania, or uldah got so far best leves to level up fast now even broken water is overpopulated, and so on), that leads into having much more market in that city than in another. But that also remind us of another thing. We've got no central city, just like jeuno on XI. If we had that, higher level items would be there, and low level items (gear, tools, crafting maths...) will be available at starting cities. Since when you have a central city and know how the cash flow, you realize that also having a small market in lolnoob cities brings money. Uldah right now is old good jeuno. Where everyone gather. And since its SO damn easy to go anywhere, gather where all does and move from there.

Being that said, i don't like the wards. Having to look for an item, then tele to the place, then run to seek the retainer, then again to the door to search another item... AH is much more simple and user friendly.


I think they don't need to adress a problem with retainer population, but with the system of market itself and needing a huge city to gather as higher level and leave 3 periferical cities for starting adventurers.


Edit: For any that said that starting cities on XI had nothing in AH is damn wrong. Besides the fact that the only way to make money as starter is sell everything you got in you inventory, there was pretty nice NPCs to sell you gear for even level 18, and same with weapons in cities and then in selbina. Apart from that, there wasn't really anything else that you would need. That leads you to level 18-19 and forces you to go to Jeuno. To get chocobo license, unlocking subjob, and all that. But we had also a mail system. So if you couldn't find anything low level in the market you usually would ask for that in your linkshell. And someone would find it for you and send it.

Please, remember we need a mail system more than merge all market wards.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Aya i played ffxi til feb. And unless they did linked the AH. no gear was sold in any of the home nations ppl only sold in jeuno. We don;t need a "jeuno" in ffxiv if its just gonna happen all over again. Inn ffxi i spent weeks selling and looking for gear. I'm not trying to be mean but you guys just don't get the long term effect jeuno had in ffxi. looking for gearfrom 1020 was extremely hard as ffxi aged. soon 20-50 got hard. Now ppl mostly sell 70+ And also add the fact on Lakshmi gear and spell went up. Most basic spells are 10K.

Don't tell me i'm wrong if you never seen it. I rerolled on ffxi alot. And had a few atl/mules. So i do know what I'm talking about.

Down side of a central town is ppl will stop setting up shop in the smaller towns. since "everyone" will be in the centeal town. If ppl wanna sell stuff they go to the popular places. As a game ages said hometowns don't become so populated, so ppl stop selling there. It what happen in ffxi and why they linked or were thinking about a link.

[Ayaka]

I did play XI too, and about what you said..

And unless they did linked the AH. no gear was sold in any of the home nations ppl only sold in jeuno.

there was pretty nice NPCs to sell you gear for even level 18, and same with weapons in cities and then in selbina

That's all you needed. Since again, at level 19+ you were forced to go level up at Qufim. I know what im talking about. Also as you said:

As a game ages said hometowns don't become so populated, so ppl stop selling there.

We are talking about a game that just started, not one who is been out for 9 years. Think when PS3 is released you'll have new players incoming. Starting cities will have to be for starters. And high level cities should be out of their reach.

Right now doing the sidequests and levequests you get rewarded with gear, so you dont "need" to buy it. Anyway, if they don't find it, they can still craft it since it's low level. As we did when we started. They shouldn't get everything handed. They could put up NPCs selling generical gear (not only weapons as there are already some for low levels) something like a full set for level 8, for level 11... you know what i'm talking about. Harness and subligars bring back memories.


About the spells on XI you're right, they are pricey and became overpriced with time, that's something that bugged me loads, and i did went to farm myself some spells. But here you learn them just leveling, not buying.

[Lamhirh]

Well what i would like to say as a market wards improvement, is rightclick on seller in searcz, and ooptiopn to go stright to his ward, without gouing back and forth through menus ^&^

[Nabiri]

Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's been a while since I've played, but weren't Bastok, Windy, Sandy, Jeuno/Whitegate, Kazham/Norg AH's all separate. Yet people still sold stuff in each of the AH's as there was a reason to be in all the towns. As I see it here, as well as a lot of people it seems, is that there is no real reason to be anywhere else bu Ul'dah as that's where the main story quest takes you. Granted everyone ended up in Jeuno, which is why it had more stuff in it's AH compared to the rest, but did they ever truly need to be linked? Oh sure it would have been easier to find the cheapest Silent Oils/Prism Powders or Sole Sushi but would you truly have wanted it to be like that? If SE wants to fix the emptiness of Limsa and Grids Market Wards they need to give people a reason to be in these two towns besides spending Guild Marks and getting Guild Support. Linking them to one specific zone is not the answer.

I think they did eventually link Bastok, San d'Oria and Windurst because people weren't selling much in them at all.
I feel that if people are going to be in Limsa and Gridania, the wards should be linked somehow. There have already been many people giving up and moving to Ul'dah even if they don't really want to be there.

[Nabiri]

no gear was sold in any of the home nations ppl only sold in jeuno.

That sucks.
Not sure what server you were on, but on Diabolos we had plenty of things in the starter cities AHs up to level 20 (and sometimes higher) for years. Up until maybe 2 years ago. And they always had tons of crystals, for much cheaper than Jeuno.

On that note.. it really sucks what's happening with FFXIV. I would really like to see people spread out to the other nations and sell there again. I don't like the abandonment of whole cities. I'm not going to follow people and move my characters to Ul'dah too just because it may be more convenient at the moment. I say, make the other cities more convenient to fix this.

[Nabiri]

Well what i would like to say as a market wards improvement, is rightclick on seller in searcz, and ooptiopn to go stright to his ward, without gouing back and forth through menus ^&^

That's an interesting idea.

[Hippo]

How about simulating Internet shopping in FFXIV? You can access the "AH" anywhere (even out of town) but whatever you buy will only get delivered to your mob house. And if you buy from an AH outside of your own city, that item will take longer, maybe a few rl hours, to be delivered to your mob house