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    Feel free to add Seraphim <SERA> (Ultros) to this list. I feel like we're practically overflowing with 'mos. (I can say that because I am one) ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwilliams133 View Post
    Feel free to add Seraphim <SERA> (Ultros) to this list. I feel like we're practically overflowing with 'mos. (I can say that because I am one) ;-)
    What is "'mos"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Ough, I always hated that ignorant logic.

    "HURR, I'M (insert race) SO I CAN MAKE AS MANY RACIST JOKES/TERMS ABOUT THEM AS I WANT!"
    "HURRR, IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO USE A DEROGATORY TERM FOR HOMOSEXUALS BECAUSE I AM ONE. HURR."

    Being the race / sexuality / religion of something should/does not give you a free pass to make jokes about it.
    Be careful, otherwise someone's liable to throw out the tone argument label and intellectually purge you for being guilty of the horrible crime of having the audacity to critique the postmodernist empowerment SJWs.
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    Being the race / sexuality / religion of something should/does not give you a free pass to make jokes about it.
    I agree to the extent that just because one is gay, that doesn't give you the right to make fun of other gay people. BUT, it is one's prerogative if they want to use a word that was once demeaning in a positive light in an attempt to reclaim it for themselves. It doesn't mean it stops being a slur to other people, of course. But if people in the lgbt community want to use it as a source of empowerment instead of demoralization, that's fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    I agree to the extent that just because one is gay, that doesn't give you the right to make fun of other gay people. BUT, it is one's prerogative if they want to use a word that was once demeaning in a positive light in an attempt to reclaim it for themselves. It doesn't mean it stops being a slur to other people, of course. But if people in the lgbt community want to use it as a source of empowerment instead of demoralization, that's fine with me.
    But that's no different than an African American using the N word in a empowering sense. It doesn't make it right for them to use the word simply because they're black. A slur is a slur. Especially since just because it's okay for the person saying it, doesn't mean every other person of that ethnicity feels the same. Homophobic comments are no different; if you're homosexual and use a term like that it may be fine to you, but it's not socially acceptable.
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    But that's no different than an African American using the N word in a empowering sense. It doesn't make it right for them to use the word simply because they're black. A slur is a slur.
    If Black people want to do that, it is their prerogative. Not everyone in the community may agree, but if you're using it to empower other people in who also see it as a sign of fraternity, etc. then it is doing the opposite effect of a slur in this case.

    EDIT: Let me further explain, if I can. As a gay person, I see the f-word slur in a negative light. It doesn't matter if other gay people use it, I don't want to be called it. But if other gay people want to use it, they're fine. They're trying to take the power out of the slur, which I respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    If Black people want to do that, it is their prerogative. Not everyone in the community may agree, but if you're using it to empower other people in who also see it as a sign of fraternity, etc. then it is doing the opposite effect of a slur in this case.
    If I use the N word on another black person I be damned if its going to be to empower them lol. Let it be known I dont use the N word and dont listen to fools that do like almost all rappers.

    Anyway yall need to get back on topic...and its not black people and the use of the N word... But gay people just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    If Black people want to do that, it is their prerogative. Not everyone in the community may agree, but if you're using it to empower other people in who also see it as a sign of fraternity, etc. then it is doing the opposite effect of a slur in this case.
    So if I use a racial slur in a empowering tone (to me), yet the majority of that race is offended by it.. it's okay? I'll agree to disagree on this one.


    But we're going off topic and I'll not respond further as to not derail the thread even more.
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    So if I use a racial slur in a empowering tone (to me), yet the majority of that race is offended by it.. it's okay? I'll agree to disagree on this one.
    You have to be a member of that community to understand, which was my entire point. Oh wellz.

    I'm in an LGBT LS on Sarg. There, back on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    You have to be a member of that community to understand, which was my entire point. Oh wellz.
    No, you don't.

    At all.
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