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  1. #181
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    Misaka Kitsunagi
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    Looks like I got deleted. Nice.

    The whole concept of "Any LGBT friendly FCs in x server?" is inherently hostile because it assumes, by default, FCs will not be friendly toward you.
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  2. #182
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    Jack Boosh
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    What does your sexual orientation have to do with the game? Whats wrong with normal guilds? Why do you only wish to play with people who are also gay? This kind of segregation can only be detrimental to the community as a whole.
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  3. #183
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    The whole concept of "Any LGBT friendly FCs in x server?" is inherently hostile because it assumes, by default, FCs will not be friendly toward you.
    I think it's a fair question. Do you allow your members to throw around the term f*g? Make insults using "That's gay"? Because plenty would, and many LGBT players would see that as an inherently hostile environment. Rather than join and commit time to that kind of situation, they'd rather avoid it entirely.

    I feel like that makes sense. It's not necessarily about joining an all LGBT guild as much as it is avoiding the hostile ones, when possible.
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  4. #184
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    Berthom Sur
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBoosh View Post
    What does your sexual orientation have to do with the game? Whats wrong with normal guilds? Why do you only wish to play with people who are also gay? This kind of segregation can only be detrimental to the community as a whole.
    I do agree in a fashion (that any kind of segregation is bad) but the fact that people feel like they need a gay-friendly LS speaks volumes about the members' experience in the game and elsewhere. To quote Macklemore: 'have you read the YouTube comments lately?'

    In an ideal world, I'm sure we'd all be in the same LS.
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  5. #185
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    Vaen Tribal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senzura View Post
    The whole concept of "Any LGBT friendly FCs in x server?" is inherently hostile because it assumes, by default, FCs will not be friendly toward you.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackBoosh View Post
    What does your sexual orientation have to do with the game? Whats wrong with normal guilds? Why do you only wish to play with people who are also gay? This kind of segregation can only be detrimental to the community as a whole.
    Why does *anyone* make a FC based on commonalities? Maybe because it's nice to talk to people you can relate to, who understand your background better, and so on.

    LGBT guilds aren't here only to avoid hate speech. They're also here because some LGBT people have fun talking to other LGBT people.

    I don't think any of the LGBT players are actively trying to diss straight players or avoid them. I find it baffling that so many detractors of this thread assume this. There's an Adventure Time-themed FC on my server, and no one's like "How dare they group up based on their commonality! What does Adventure Time have to do with the game? They're segregating themselves and ruining the community! Why are you insulting all the non-Adventure Time guilds??!"

    That's how silly and nonsensical these constant criticisms of LGBT guilds sound. The classic "what does this have to do with the game" line is especially flawed. So we're ONLY allowed to talk about FFXIV and never about ourselves or our lives? WTF????

    Players in LGBT guilds are glad to group up with straight players, and welcome them in their guilds. Like all players, we just want to have a fun time in this game and have a good social experience.

    Maybe you're sincere with your questions and you just come from a place of genuine curiosity and inexperience. If so, then hopefully this answered your questions and no hard feelings.

    But the only real reason people would be against LGBT guilds is because they have a bias against LGBT people.
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    Last edited by Vaen; 10-22-2013 at 12:54 AM.
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  6. #186
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    Eiji Hino
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    Would anyone know which FC/LS is the most active on Hyperion. I have a friend with me and we might be looking for some people to join.
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  7. #187
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    awww why can't there be a LGBT group in Exodus!! D:
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  8. #188
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    R'nageo Isea
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    Are there any European groups of LGBT players somewhere? Or at least a group that plays at Europe-compatible times? I've started in Gilgamesh but I don't want to find myself unable to play with like-minded players because of the time difference...
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  9. #189
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    we are very active and busy on Hyperion. Check the directory for others.
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  10. #190
    Hello, I have a question please, what is the enjin and guildwork web sites I see a lot of the guild host sites on? I am interested in some of the groups on there but I have no idea about fansites and kinda like to know before I browse. Any info is appreciated. Love this thread btw.
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