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    Ezariel Bayne
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    Full str. You get way more HP than you need for anything from gear alone, and high end tanking gear has very little in the way of aggro stats. If that extra tiny bit of VIT ever comes into play beyond the retarded amount you get from gear already there is something going far more wrong in your group than where you put your bonus stats...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipsed View Post
    Full str. You get way more HP than you need for anything from gear alone, and high end tanking gear has very little in the way of aggro stats. If that extra tiny bit of VIT ever comes into play beyond the retarded amount you get from gear already there is something going far more wrong in your group than where you put your bonus stats...
    I echo this. I am running full STR and having no trouble tanking hard mode Garuda atm. I have yet to find an encounter where the lack of 30 VIT impedes my ability to tank it.
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    Kamahl Stormblessed
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    I think paladins should take 30 vit, and it isn't close. Especially single target, holding aggro is a joke. If you are having issues holding aggro, the small dps boost from 30 str won't save you. The mitigation it provides is also small, as at most, 30 str will only move you up one tier on the block/parry chart, giving another 1% on parries and shield blocks.

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    More health, however, is always a good thing. Since paladins have lower health than wars, I think it is imperative that they get as much vit as they can from gear. Paladins have cd's for days, so there is less need to eke out a little more defense at the cost of health. From what little endgame content I've done (cleared hm ifrit, a few attempts on garuda, lvl 50 dungeons), bosses will hit hard enough for a high health buffer to be needed, especially on paladins who start with 25% less health than wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBTL90 View Post
    Interesting data. It has certainly made me favor the idea of switching to VIT as I am gaining absolutely nothing from my 30 STR.
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    Melina Vi'sinda
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    Main thing killing tanks or having problems with bosses for tanks is the lack of hp to survive the big hits. 30 points in vit just does more no matter what since these are static.. you gear changes and with that you need for those "3 points in dex for next tier" was just voided.
    All in all the big tank killer.. is huge magic damage. That makes vit for these pitiful 30 points far better. At end game you get more then 30 vit on a lot of armor.
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    Truthfully emnity isn't really an issue if your maintaining your rotation properly... and if you haven't noticed the itemization on the Melee DOW gear is... the same. Putting it into STR does increase emnity, for Warriors I think it may effect second wind, increases parry mitigation, and for PLD increases the block mitigation, tho the 30 points doesn't add much. For each point of VIT you get about 14.5 HP, multiply that by 30 and you gain approx 435 hp. It'll increase the effectiveness of Stoneskin (10% for cross class and 18% for WHM) and your passive HP regen which is based of off your health pool . Also technically increases the healing from Benediction and Lustrate, and also for WAR will increase the effectiveness of Mercy Stroke (availible for cross class for PLD), Thrill of Battle and Defiance. Realistically its not gonna make a huge difference one way or the other, however for the twinks out there, it appears there is far more synergy associated with stacking it into VIT.
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    Last edited by Mini-man; 12-13-2013 at 06:51 PM.

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    I also wanna note that those extra 435 hp have actually saved my PLD's hide a few times on the Tonberry King with a nasty overstacked Everybody's Grudge and on Titan where at times I've been left with less than 1k hp after a nasty chain of events. Giving yourself and your healer a little extra butter zone is invaluable, esp when the healer needs to let you go for a second to heal up another party member or themselves. That said, WAR has more notable returns for more than just second wind (didnt feel like typing up a story) and thrive off the damage they do so a Warrior will want to consider putting points into STR for the sake of optimization but since this is a post about PLD points... VIT shines bright.
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    Last edited by Mini-man; 12-13-2013 at 06:37 PM.

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    I completely agree with Mini Man.
    I don't believe it matters much while leveling, but full VIT is the way to go when you hit 50. I can recall some moments where I suddenly dropped to 200-500 health and it saved the fight. Even having no bonus stats invested in STR, you will never lose enmity if you maintain your rotations. Any points being used on DEX is really not worth it.

    You will absolutely want as much HP as you can get to help out your healers when you are on Twintania and she hits you with a Death Sentence + instant Auto Attack.
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