PLD Bonus Stats

[Ariyn]

MND

Sorry but you do not belong in a theorycraft discussion if you think MND is even a remotely viable way to do anything lmao. PLD heals are complete garbage. You can put 30 MND from your points and materia in all MND and guess what ... it's still garbage. Don't feed people wrong information because you think it's the way to go ... it's not and never will be. As of right now there is no reason for PLD to even have CNJ to pull from except to raise a bad healer in a 4 man ...

[ViktorShtrum]

Sorry but you do not belong in a theorycraft discussion if you think MND is even a remotely viable way to do anything lmao.

Regardless of whether he is right or wrong, and most likely wrong about MND being an effective enmity tool, what he is offering is exactly what theorycrafting is all about. It's not about giving the best answer the first time, it's about wood shedding ideas and putting them to the test.

[Ariyn]

Regardless of whether he is right or wrong, and most likely wrong about MND being an effective enmity tool, what he is offering is exactly what theorycrafting is all about. It's not about giving the best answer the first time, it's about wood shedding ideas and putting them to the test.

You're right it's about finding the best ways. That being said MND was never even in the category of being looked at it's so far down the list. My point was that this is why we end up with bad tanks. People come to forums and chat for help and the trolls feed them this. If he wasn't trying to troll then my apologies and you should look at some theory crafting (just google it not hard to find). If they end up changing things to make MND more attractive I maybe able to get on board with it since it makes sense and imo is what it should be but currently it is no where even close. Here's some numbers for you:

200 point Cure = 100 emnity (about what you get around level 40 maybe a little higher on the cure but its .5 emnity per point healed)
100 dmg Savage Blade @40 = 600 emnity

Now you could argue that "Cure puts emnity on all targets in combat" and you would be right. So let's look at Cure vs Flash @ 50

Flash @50 = 1100 emnity on everything it hits
Cure @50 is around 400 = 200 emnity

Source of theory crafting: http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=231

So unless you can push your MND to the point of a WHM and be able to spam Cure's with our limited mp pool then for tanking it is never a viable alternative. For the same GCD you spend on that Cure you are at best gimping yourself about 500 emnity. In terms of aiding your healer it is in fact a good supplement but that is only if you can take the threat loss. In pugs this maybe possible but I for one know in FC groups my dps are always on my a$$ in threat so losing the emnity isn't a viable option.