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    LunarRei's Avatar
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    Emi Hikari
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Look at my links. Also, it isn't blindly, without any kind of testing you should be able to conclude which is better, MP costs don't really matter much considering at least what people were saying, the infinite pool of MP they had, like you said though, you aren't 50, so you don't know this. Just because you aren't 50, don't just accuse people of "blindly" saying how things are at 50. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.

    Also the burden of proof lies upon you to present a situation where healers just dump MP trying to heal someone with that 30 extra vit, but you know, like you said, you not being 50, might be pretty hard.
    No need to get elitist because you have a 50. You obviously missed some things on the way, but I won't hold that against you. Yes, people are saying MP isn't a big factor, yet, but they also confess to not knowing what the endgame is like. The reason I am criticizing your conclusion as blind is because you don't know how much mitigation is gained by way of STR. That means you are blind to the facts. As am I.

    What you seem to be missing that I am not, however, is that there are general principles to tanking that you are clearly glossing over. Mitigation is one of the prime aspects of tanking, as well as health pool. If only health pool mattered then why not let THM tank as long as they have sufficient health? This is an obviously extreme example, but clearly illustrates my point.

    All you have done is say that because you are 50 and I am not, you are correct. Such hubris will get your party killed, fellow tank. There is no burden for me to prove, it has been proven time and time again in all MMO's that utilize the holy trinity. Besides, I am not the one printing conjecture and asserting it as fact. I have tried to stay objective and have explained my position with numbers and actual spell descriptions. I also stated that you may be correct. It would appear your reading comprehension is on par with your tanking knowledge.

    Edit: Checked out your links and the only ones that scale with HP are the WHM full heal and the 20% heal from SCH (ignoring stoneskin because it has already been explained). The WHM heal is on a 5 minute CD so if you are building your char based on that, you are screwed. The 20% from SCH is more interesting, but you have to be in Aetherflow which in on 1 min CD and should probably be saved for when it is needed, meaning it won't be prime heal. So, decent bonus, but not more important than mitigation.

    From all sources except the XIV database, Stoneskin prevents only physical damage. Until it can be confirmed tomorrow, I'll go with what I know. Even if it does block elemental damage, Cure > Stoneskin in all cases after battle has started.
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    Last edited by LunarRei; 08-24-2013 at 11:43 AM.

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