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    Perhaps I'm doing something "wrong" but I would like to see 400 HP cures; mine do 200. They definitely don't do 1000.

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    And I see it now. My Provoke timer is rarely down; it rarely gets used. That's probably because I'm not busy curing myself for feeble amounts of HP, and instead I'm busy on keeping enmity.

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    Update so far:

    Putting every bonus stat point into STR is working out very well for me.

    1. My threat is phenomenal. On a single target, nobody will ever tear it away from me. I can afk a third of the way through a fight on a standard dungeon mob and it will be dead before it turns from me. I can easily hold aggro on 2 enemies while each DD is focusing a different one.

    2. My Block Strength is great. Every once in a while I'll see a dungeon boss hit me for 0 on a block (don't know how often it happens, but it does).

    3. My damage is surprisingly good. I will never, ever compete with a DD, but that's obvious and as it should be. Still, I contribute far more than people usual give tanks credit for. In the final boss of Sunken Temple, if my SMN managed to get within the sealed squares he would struggle, and often fail, to kill off the Mithral Virge in time, whereas I could kill them with ease every time.
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    Hey I've been reading in some sites that Dex helps increase block rate chance, is this true and would you suggest putting some bonus stat points in it?
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    Hey all, not to Hijack the thread off of the STR vs VIT debate but since I can't create threads yet this one seem the right place to do it.

    Before p4 and these newer forums I remembered reading somewhere that the amount of enmity generated by weapon skills and actions that paladins use is increased with higher mind. I can't seem to find the thread I found the information in and I have no idea how things have changed. So, I would appreciate a reply from people who have messed with this or know whether mind effects any pld spells other than curing and stoneskin as well as whether or not it effects enmity generation or amount of enmity.

    Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBear View Post
    Update so far:

    Putting every bonus stat point into STR is working out very well for me.

    1. My threat is phenomenal. On a single target, nobody will ever tear it away from me. I can afk a third of the way through a fight on a standard dungeon mob and it will be dead before it turns from me. I can easily hold aggro on 2 enemies while each DD is focusing a different one.

    2. My Block Strength is great. Every once in a while I'll see a dungeon boss hit me for 0 on a block (don't know how often it happens, but it does).

    3. My damage is surprisingly good. I will never, ever compete with a DD, but that's obvious and as it should be. Still, I contribute far more than people usual give tanks credit for. In the final boss of Sunken Temple, if my SMN managed to get within the sealed squares he would struggle, and often fail, to kill off the Mithral Virge in time, whereas I could kill them with ease every time.
    Doing the same with full vit xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isten View Post
    ...enmity generated by weapon skills and actions that paladins use is increased with higher mind. So, I would appreciate a reply from people who have messed with this or know whether mind effects any pld spells other than curing and stoneskin as well as whether or not it effects enmity generation or amount of enmity.
    Right now MND is very lack-luster for tanking. It increases your Cure a little bit, but at the moment there are no swords with high MATK which means you won't be throwing out any heal that is very substantial. From what I've seen/read it does not affect your enmity at all, other than your cure being stronger as I already mentioned, but again without MATK swords it's too low to be worth it at this time. Unfortunate because part of being a PLD traditionally is their use of White Magic, but at this time the main stats you wanna focus on are VIT and STR.
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    ah, kinda a shame. I was talking to some of the pld's I've come across IG and they say the same as you Seph - that right now the only spell PLD use that MND has any bearing on is Cure. I sorta hope it changes, as right now I feel like it would give more variety in the style of tanking one would do. But I guess if something isn't broken, no need to fix it, right?

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilair View Post
    Doing the same with full vit xD
    I'm glad to hear it! Being that bonus stat points are the only form of customization I hope it makes a difference, but being full capable of tanking should be the standard and not the exclusive trait of the "correct build". So VIT or STR, the only difference ought to be preference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Right now MND is very lack-luster for tanking.
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    Unfortunate because part of being a PLD traditionally is their use of White Magic, but at this time the main stats you wanna focus on are VIT and STR.
    Same as Isten, I'm sad MND doesn't play more of a factor. :/ I like the idea of a tank that used his head as much as his body, and I hope they add a MND modifier to being a PLD at some point (perhaps as level cap increases), but STR/VIT makes sense and I've no qualms with splitting between only 2 stats. :P
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    I have been full STR since P3 and have never looked back.
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    I prefer full VIT. Things don't always go as planned and the extra HP at level 50 has been the difference between a wipe and a return enough times to be worth it.
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