PLD Bonus Stats

[Rajah]

Simple really

No one has done Crystal Tower to my knowledge, or Bahamut's Instance.

400-1000 Cure is evidently waaay more powerful than you give it credit for. If I can cure 1/4 of my own HP in ONE cure, that is extremely powerful.

It is not about spamming cure, it's about getting use of the meager MP pool. Of course there's a dropoff point in using an ability over and over, but this is NOT about wasting a cure.

No, this about effective cures that take 2 seconds to make.

Sure you could get +400 HP, but it won't do anything in the long run, besides give your healers breathing room. How about 500-1000 heals for breathing room.

Flash is something you do when you can't shield swipe, when you can't shield bash, when your timer for provoke is down, when you have too much MP, facing one target.

Facing multiple targets yes it will get attention. By following up with a CURE as half a dozen mobs truck you, YOU can recover that lost hate and health with a fat cure.

Never did I say to stack piety and -spell cast. I'm talking about 50-100% MND materia and high defense gear.

Sentinel's Cuirass anyone?

Here's why STR is useless to PLD. All hate comes from abilities and spirits within (think shield oath). The only method of abstaining this is not dealing damage, it is mitigating AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WHO SIAD RIOT BLADE

YALL ARE A RIOT SERIOUSLY

[Raansu]

I feel bad for anyone that has to group with you...

[Ariyn]

-snip-

You have to be trying to troll ... there is no other explanation.

400 HP is 1/10th of an AF gear PLD @50. Once you start getting the better gear it goes even farther down. Even if you MND stacked on materia and bonus points you still wouldn't get to heal 1/4th your hp. And you would be seriously gimping yourself in the process.

You should seriously just reroll a healer ...

[Kryzen]

The overall amount of healing you get from stats is quite pathetic. That came from my FC main healer.

[Themis]

Perhaps I'm doing something "wrong" but I would like to see 400 HP cures; mine do 200. They definitely don't do 1000.

Flash is something you do when you can't shield swipe, when you can't shield bash, when your timer for provoke is down, when you have too much MP, facing one target.

And I see it now. My Provoke timer is rarely down; it rarely gets used. That's probably because I'm not busy curing myself for feeble amounts of HP, and instead I'm busy on keeping enmity.

Bad troll is just that.

[ZenBear]

Update so far:

Putting every bonus stat point into STR is working out very well for me.

1. My threat is phenomenal. On a single target, nobody will ever tear it away from me. I can afk a third of the way through a fight on a standard dungeon mob and it will be dead before it turns from me. I can easily hold aggro on 2 enemies while each DD is focusing a different one.

2. My Block Strength is great. Every once in a while I'll see a dungeon boss hit me for 0 on a block (don't know how often it happens, but it does).

3. My damage is surprisingly good. I will never, ever compete with a DD, but that's obvious and as it should be. Still, I contribute far more than people usual give tanks credit for. In the final boss of Sunken Temple, if my SMN managed to get within the sealed squares he would struggle, and often fail, to kill off the Mithral Virge in time, whereas I could kill them with ease every time.

[Devilair]

Update so far:

Putting every bonus stat point into STR is working out very well for me.

1. My threat is phenomenal. On a single target, nobody will ever tear it away from me. I can afk a third of the way through a fight on a standard dungeon mob and it will be dead before it turns from me. I can easily hold aggro on 2 enemies while each DD is focusing a different one.

2. My Block Strength is great. Every once in a while I'll see a dungeon boss hit me for 0 on a block (don't know how often it happens, but it does).

3. My damage is surprisingly good. I will never, ever compete with a DD, but that's obvious and as it should be. Still, I contribute far more than people usual give tanks credit for. In the final boss of Sunken Temple, if my SMN managed to get within the sealed squares he would struggle, and often fail, to kill off the Mithral Virge in time, whereas I could kill them with ease every time.

Doing the same with full vit xD

[luciferbelmont]

Hey I've been reading in some sites that Dex helps increase block rate chance, is this true and would you suggest putting some bonus stat points in it?

[Isten]

Hey all, not to Hijack the thread off of the STR vs VIT debate but since I can't create threads yet this one seem the right place to do it.

Before p4 and these newer forums I remembered reading somewhere that the amount of enmity generated by weapon skills and actions that paladins use is increased with higher mind. I can't seem to find the thread I found the information in and I have no idea how things have changed. So, I would appreciate a reply from people who have messed with this or know whether mind effects any pld spells other than curing and stoneskin as well as whether or not it effects enmity generation or amount of enmity.

Thank you!

[Sephirah]

...enmity generated by weapon skills and actions that paladins use is increased with higher mind. So, I would appreciate a reply from people who have messed with this or know whether mind effects any pld spells other than curing and stoneskin as well as whether or not it effects enmity generation or amount of enmity.

Right now MND is very lack-luster for tanking. It increases your Cure a little bit, but at the moment there are no swords with high MATK which means you won't be throwing out any heal that is very substantial. From what I've seen/read it does not affect your enmity at all, other than your cure being stronger as I already mentioned, but again without MATK swords it's too low to be worth it at this time. Unfortunate because part of being a PLD traditionally is their use of White Magic, but at this time the main stats you wanna focus on are VIT and STR.