PLD Bonus Stats

[DyneSilencer]

I'm just going to throw into VIT and reallocate if needed. I got 7k seals from on and off FATE grinding, so 10k isn't bad. Keep up the research though!

[NoctisCaelus]

I think 30 vit won't hurt honestly. It wouldn't diminish my ability to maintain threat and does give me some breathing room if I make some mistakes.

[Raze]

My suggestion is to look at the effect that the stats have as you gain in level. Low level materia is easy to come by. Draw your own conclusions as you level and then wait to allocate stats.

As to what's been said before, I would say that VIT would win out in theoretical benefits but there's really no way to draw conclusions yet, so I'm taking my own advice and waiting until it actually matters.

[Kryzen]

100% vitality. With our already insane mitigation makes our HP pool scale very very well. Also higher HP = stronger stoneskin. The little amount of damage/threat someone would gain from going 100% strength is so piss poor when compared to a DPS class out put. There would be only a handful of times that any points into strength would result in you having aggro over them.

dex in beta forums was calculated to be crap but i am not sure if they changed it since then.

just my 2 cents.

[LunarRei]

100% vitality. With our already insane mitigation makes our HP pool scale very very well. Also higher HP = stronger stoneskin. The little amount of damage/threat someone would gain from going 100% strength is so piss poor when compared to a DPS class out put. There would be only a handful of times that any points into strength would result in you having aggro over them.

dex in beta forums was calculated to be crap but i am not sure if they changed it since then.

just my 2 cents.

I don't mean to rejoin this thread, but to stay consistent...

Say no to Stoneskin!!!!!!!!!!

[ZenBear]

The little amount of damage/threat someone would gain from going 100% strength is so piss poor when compared to a DPS class out put. There would be only a handful of times that any points into strength would result in you having aggro over them.

Remember that our "extra enmity" abilities grant multiplicative bonuses (x2 or x3), so each point matters more to Tanks than DDs as far as enmity generation. You're not trying to match a DD's damage, just their threat.

I don't mean to rejoin this thread, but to stay consistent...

Say no to Stoneskin!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not disagreeing, it certainly seems wasteful to throw that much MP on a tank who will lose it almost as soon as it's cast, but what about dropping it on squishy melee DDs to protect from AoEs? Does it have a duration or does it last until consumed?

[NoctisCaelus]

So far, I went Vit and I have no problem stealing threat and maintaining it in dungeons. We have so many threat generating abilities that it's crazy. Plus I don't have to worry about TP or MP as much since I use both to manage threat control. I'm only level 30 though but I'll keep updating.

[Mitsuhide]

I love the Gladiator in this much more than in 1.0.
And i will probably go for both maybe 7/3 with Vit ahead.

[Capertillar]

lots of good info in this thread, but I think SE has us running around in circles trying to min/max when it really doesnt matter. str and vit contributes to different styles of tanking i think...

however, being a noob lvl 30 gladiator (and not even a paladin yet), i went 100% strength for the lvling process and will reassess when the time comes

up to this point, i have found my tarutaru hp pool to be sufficient, and my deaths were not due to being 1 shotted (heck, there werent even that many mobs in FF11 that could 1shot my tarutaru hp pool - and our hp pool was seriously nerfed back then), and while the str may only add tiny nearly nonexistent damage, it does add to overall damage. i actually think we have all the damage mitigation we need... rampart and convalescence one after another should be able to keep us up through any massive rush of damage...

who knows... on with the theory crafters and launch those excel spreadsheets! =)

[SomeFatGalka]

For myself at the moment, being a Roe and leaving me with such a small Dex pool I played around with Bulwarks and Tower Shields.

The tower shield had a significant reduction in damage but looking at my Shield Swipe Icon never procing was annoying, considering is almost (to me) considered a second bash. I've experienced bosses standing there for 5 seconds doing nothing because I revoked their ability to weapon skill.

So Ive been sticking with round bulwarks to compensate for the immense shield block chance difference. I get at least 1 block per 2-3 attacks while being targeted by 1 monster.

Ive dumped 13 points into STR to compensate the loss of block amount from tower shields, and 4 points into Dex to assist with my rate. I did not spec into STR for threat issues. Keeping threat is simple. I honestly see a huge difference in my crit damage

So far, combined with the cavalier set from Longstop, I rarely get scratched in pulls of 3/4.

Judging from the http://i.imgur.com/YNwUMd9.png , I would strongly agree that VIT would be the way to go. But I have noticed a difference between my block rate doing what I have been doing.