Traumatizing? You must not have played FFXI.Yes, and they were called "epic" because the quest involved to actually get the item was epic itself. People that complain about grinding now have now idea what it was like to get an epic in Everquest. I only managed to get the 1.0 and 1.5 epic for my mage. It took forever. I never want to have to go through that again. Q_Q. It was practically traumatizing.
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