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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldarion18 View Post
    ...other jobs are enjoying essential cross-class skills that enhance their role in almost every situation. As it stands right now, none of the Conjurer skills enhance a Paladin, which is a big handicap in comparison to other jobs.
    To clarify things for you, the Paladin is a white knight with holy benediction. As far as Lore goes this Job will (I mean, SHOULD) never receive Pugilist cross-skills because it is not in line with the character. To give you a more technically sound reason the Paladin's job is a main tank. Their "Cure" spell is a formality of their benediction. It is more of a self-support tool for questing, leves, perhaps emergency healing (to a much lesser extent).

    As far as endgame material, the Paladin should not be wasting his time curing himself because his job is that of a tank. You have a healer designated to the tanks for a reason. This aside, things should stay as they are and most of the FF community will agree.
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    Shawn Cody
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taskun56 View Post
    To clarify things for you, the Paladin is a white knight with holy benediction. As far as Lore goes this Job will (I mean, SHOULD) never receive Pugilist cross-skills because it is not in line with the character. To give you a more technically sound reason the Paladin's job is a main tank. Their "Cure" spell is a formality of their benediction. It is more of a self-support tool for questing, leves, perhaps emergency healing (to a much lesser extent).

    As far as endgame material, the Paladin should not be wasting his time curing himself because his job is that of a tank. You have a healer designated to the tanks for a reason. This aside, things should stay as they are and most of the FF community will agree.
    That's all fine and dandy but if you're gonna completely stick with lore, being a Paladin has even less to do with Conjurer since that class deals with "conjuring the elements". The lore has been garbled up between Conjurer and Thaumaturge (which was previously a discipline of Life and Death) ever since they decided to split the elements up between the two so it hardly applies in this scenario.
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    It still has application in the fact that Conjurer is the devoted healing class for the first half of the game. This is supported by the Duty finder deciding roles of classes which are, ultimately, not healers despite having a few healing abilities.

    Regardless, I think you are entitled to your opinion, but I do not see them making this change so close to launch with such little input on the matter.
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    James Tiberius
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    I completely agree that conjurer(white magic) is a big part of the PLD lore, and that PLD isn't related to pugilist in any way, but I don't think that cure should be just a "formality." I think white magic should play a bigger role in tanking. Cure should be a serious tool, and it should be worth using. I don't want FFXI part 2, but I think that XI did a very good job with the PLD job. The XI PLD had access to divine magic, healing magic and enhancing magic, and it was the lazy paladin that didn't make good use of these spells.
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    Satheena Mistalle
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTiberius View Post
    I completely agree that conjurer(white magic) is a big part of the PLD lore, and that PLD isn't related to pugilist in any way, but I don't think that cure should be just a "formality." I think white magic should play a bigger role in tanking. Cure should be a serious tool, and it should be worth using. I don't want FFXI part 2, but I think that XI did a very good job with the PLD job. The XI PLD had access to divine magic, healing magic and enhancing magic, and it was the lazy paladin that didn't make good use of these spells.
    I agree that conjurer should stay a part of PLD, but I disagree that cure be a major role in tanking. It shouldn't be the lifeblood of tanking and shouldn't be needed to keep hate. Lets keep FFXI different from FFXIV shall we? They are not the same game thankfully. FFXI has little to no job balance :/... Don't want that repeated here
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