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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

A similar dagger/sword being sold as we rode the caravan into Ul'dah (in the present 1572 6A.E.).

It's hard to tell if it's a hint or just duplicated resources. The Key, for instance, looks just like the horn used in Ul'dah to break the spell over the Goobbue and enrage the Coblyns. However, it's also the same horn a (seemingly) normal dock-worker Miqo'te blows to tell the ship to set sail. It even zooms right in on her doing it as Y'shtola looks on, yet seems completely inconsequential and a duplicated visual resource.

Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Silver Bazaar, Gold Bazaar, Little Ala Mhigo?

He specifically mentions "a nearby hamlet," and the story makes mention that the Gold/Silver Bazaars had become refugee camps overflowing with Ala Mhigans even in 1562. Coming from a recent trip to Ala Mhigo, himself, Warburton may have been meeting resistance contacts there, perhaps?

Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Now why would Lord Lolorito want an item used to create zombies?

Thancred supposed that it was to win the war with the Garleans, but if you can bring people back from the dead, that's a service you can charge for, and if you have the market cornered...

Why do we think there was another body in the coffin as opposed to it just being empty? And why Corguevais' body?

As far as I could see, he was an Imperial spy gathering intelligence on Ul'dah and he'd simply assumed that Warburton, am Imperial double agent, was doing the same work he was. I'd thought there was something to be said for Ascians in Ascilia's warnings of "something worse," but Thancred already knows what Ascians are - Y'shtola's part of his group and she mentions them by name in Limsa Lominsa during the same investigation period. What they didn't know in 1562 was that Primals were about to be summoned - but the Imperials knew this. When he escapes, Corguevais says that he would have learned of the danger facing Ul'dah sooner if they didn't kill Warburton. Now, Corguevais had just taken possession of Warburton's effects as part of his funeral, and Warburton's Journal, as we learned in 2.1, was stuffed with Imperial knowledge on primals. Corguevais and Ascilia could have been fleeing back to Ala Mhigo because they thought Ifrit was going to be tearing Ul'dah down in the near future.

Then, of course, there's this: A few quests later, Ifrit is a big reveal and the Ascian is an ominous foreshadow. An unreleased post-50 quest seems to imply that the beast tribes summoned their primals because they were terrified by attacks coming from the "Reaper" Ascian. Could the "Paragons" have been engaging in false flag operations? Could this have been part of a planned reveal later in the questline? It's probably been scrapped by now, anyway, lol.

Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

As you can see the assassin was left handed

Huh... nice catch! Alright, let's talk conspiracy for a moment. My original theory was that Warburton was the assassin - but I've been working on an alternate; I like to have a few. Let's go back to Ascians - maybe the Ascians couldn't possess a corpse. Maybe they didn't need to.

Thancred realizes that Neille means to resurrect Warburton and says to meet him at the Ossuary. When you get there, Thancred mentions that he's been waiting there for the Thaumaturges to unseal the magick wards that keep the Ossuary locked - yet somehow they've already been broken. The door is wide open not 50 yalms away - and at the bottom of the stairs is Neille, dying. We see an Echo that reveals just before you arrived to speak with Thancred, Neille's assassin ran him through. Not only does the assassin make the kill with his left hand, the assassin is wearing another blade on his left hip as NPCs normally do. It's visible for but a moment as he turns around.

Now, I'm sure there are tons of Hyurs who prefer that dagger. However, there was one in particular that we shouldn't forget was close by:

Perhaps Thancred's possession wasn't a new idea for A Realm Reborn. I bet Ascian magicks could break open the THM's seals.

But then... where was Warburton? Taken to prevent his resurrection and spouting of primal talk?

Of course, we can't overlook the most likely scenario of all, that drilling over this information since 2010 (tainted by open ends, half truths, and the story of A Realm Reborn) has driven me right off the path of reasonable ideas, lol.