SP pre November patch

[DeadRiser]

Not trying to back track the 'progression' of this game but...

Did anyone else like sp gains before November patch? I know they were random gains sometimes, but you actually had people outside the aetherytes and not just focusing on leves.

Yes I know we have a huge decrease in the population since November but just wanted to see people's thoughts on sp gains now and back then

[Warp]

Players can still get really good SP from party grinding, but because the monsters and combat are so boring and uninspired that they don't even bother looking for other like-minded people.

[DeadRiser]

Players can still get really good SP from party grinding, but because the monsters and combat are so boring and uninspired that they don't even bother looking for other like-minded people.

Well the difference now is that you are directed to have smaller parties, max sp gain being with a party of 8. When you have a small group of people, combat isn't so boring actually.

[darkstarpoet1]

Well the difference now is that you are directed to have smaller parties, max sp gain being with a party of 8. When you have a small group of people, combat isn't so boring actually.

i know they say 8, but i have noticed that 6 is actually your highest sp per kill. when you go to 8 the sp per kill drops drastically. i know the extra 2 people do make kills faster, but there's not many places in which you have enough mobs with fast enough spawn time to make sp an hr worthwhile for a party of 8. personally i enjoy the larger 15 man parties because i am in a big ls and it's easy to get 15 and hate telling people they can't join because it'll hurt our sp. there is just not enough mobs in game that will benefit a bigger party so i do understand them wishing to drop the max party size.

[DeadRiser]

i know they say 8, but i have noticed that 6 is actually your highest sp per kill. when you go to 8 the sp per kill drops drastically. i know the extra 2 people do make kills faster, but there's not many places in which you have enough mobs with fast enough spawn time to make sp an hr worthwhile for a party of 8. personally i enjoy the larger 15 man parties because i am in a big ls and it's easy to get 15 and hate telling people they can't join because it'll hurt our sp. there is just not enough mobs in game that will benefit a bigger party so i do understand them wishing to drop the max party size.

I hate 15 man parties. There is just no fun to them outside of NM.

[darkstarpoet1]

I hate 15 man parties. There is just no fun to them outside of NM.

no that's what i was saying. i wish there was more mob types that supported the bigger parties. to me the biggest issue is the higher mobs that could support a big party to defeat them have a massive attack that will 1 shot a whole group of r50 people. there is no middle ground where they have mobs that a group really has to team up against to defeat besides the nm's. that's why i said i understood why they dropped the sp to being most beneficial for an 8 man party, but would love to see some mobs besides nm's that you need teamwork and a bigger group to attack and have a tough and engaging battle.

[Luluna]

I remember being on Lancer before they fixed our Accuracy and being with a party other DDs killed it and then i missed a lot and i got not a lot lol...if thats what you mean by having a chance of a skill up each time you landed a hit. Once i could actually hit it wasn't too bad but i prefer it now. I think i remember seeing a rank 50 Archer two weeks after launch must have been all the hitting.

[Elkwood]

The Rank 50 you saw 2 weeks after launch was from the Leve bug lol before a patch in Oct you used to be able to kill any mobs for increased SP while under leve and get massive SP gains.

[Luluna]

The Rank 50 you saw 2 weeks after launch was from the Leve bug lol before a patch in Oct you used to be able to kill any mobs for increased SP while under leve and get massive SP gains.

No this was because the system rewarded those who could hit most...the patch i remember was to fix the mage exploit where people got exp for curing instead of killing.

[Chardrizard]

i like the current SP, i also grind fine in normal parties with the mages that actually cures and nukes instead of spamming dart for a chance of SP.

the only problem now is that most of the times people barely have time to do grinding parties because leves occupies 2 out of 3 days, on free days people wants to relax.. and then there are people that wants to grind but do not know where to go, or if they do knows where to go, the kills are so slow because they do not have any idea how to utilize BR, hence they stop doing normal grinding parties.. this keeps going until no one does grinding party anymore.