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    darkstarpoet1's Avatar
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    Darkstar Poet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galamantyl View Post
    A few months ago...

    Me in a party of 3 people...

    We fought a bat in Mun-Tuy Cellars...

    It kept healing itself over and over again during the entire fight, took a ridiculous amount of time/effort/resrouces to kill...

    Only got 100 sp to show for it.



    I am in favor of the old SP system.
    yeah those bats can be total beasts. i hate fighting them even now. the thing is i know not to fight them now because the sp stinks on them, but i would rather people learn to fight mobs the correct way and the old system did the opposite.

    i hated getting in groups under the old system where people would intentionally get beat up instead of killing the mob. i feel like the old sp system just promoted playing the class the opposite of the proper way which alot of people still have not learned how to do. to me this sp method needs some tweaks on sp gained from some mobs, but it is much better than the last system.
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Ninja Lv 90
    worst system ever

    have to keep monster alive as long as possible to get more SP

    and for a healer you need to have evil intention, want to see your allies get wound for more healing chance
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    Griss Stilgar
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    Sargatanas
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    I really disliked the old sp system because you had to fight against your party members to gain sp. Some one was always loosing out every fight. I remember being very frustrated when i gained around 90-100 or less skill per mob and some one else was constantly "Capping" out. Hell i remember a lot of cases not gaining a single point of skill especially early on, its was a real kick in the dangly parts to get no skill what so ever because you were killing to quickly.. at rank 1.
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    All these people talking about intentionally getting hurt and whatnot to gain sp.. THAT'S pretty much exploiting the system. I meant in the way that people actually grinded for those every so often 500 sp a kill. I didn't nor did any of my parties dumb themselves down to get max sp like that. Never mind. fail thread
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    Jayvir Deforte
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    All these people talking about intentionally getting hurt and whatnot to gain sp.. THAT'S pretty much exploiting the system. I meant in the way that people actually grinded for those every so often 500 sp a kill. I didn't nor did any of my parties dumb themselves down to get max sp like that. Never mind. fail thread
    I can't say I know of a single person who did not try to maximize the sp. Most people I know would not want to go several fights without sp and then the one magic monster that gave 200. Why not get 500 every time?

    It's kinda like saying that you don't care how much sp doblyns gave, you would much rather fight the roadrunners who are harder and net half of the sp just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte View Post
    I can't say I know of a single person who did not try to maximize the sp. Most people I know would not want to go several fights without sp and then the one magic monster that gave 200. Why not get 500 every time?

    It's kinda like saying that you don't care how much sp doblyns gave, you would much rather fight the roadrunners who are harder and net half of the sp just because.
    Well you just met someone and haven't met the rest of the population. All the eft parties and antling parties I went into we never did such a thing.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    SP are something like money

    and everyone want money
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Old SP system was horrible. We made tanks not wear gear so they'd take more dmg and we could spam cure them, we'd fight AOE mobs so we could spam cure more, we'd intentionally do less dmg, not debuff the mobs, not hit too hard, not WS, spam taunt, spam random abilities, etc.
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I always found it odd that mages never debuffed... I always got like 90-150sp per debuff back in the day when sp proced. having a 15 person with 5 mages... trying to get cure sp was sorta stupid.
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    Pre Nov patch SP was only good for mages. all other classes sucked hard. At times the mob would die before you could ever get in a hit. exspecially in big parties. Also if you wern't a PLD god forbid you pull a mob. I really hated the game before the patch and was so so glad what they did with the SP gain.
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    Last edited by Frebaut; 04-09-2011 at 09:09 AM.

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