Thread: Super General Discussion 2.0 - Always offering a happy, fun time~!

Originally Posted by Coris

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Given that break, I got a lore-related question regarding the situations in Sun Miqo'te tribes/groups, because I am thinking of writing some short snippets about Coris' childhood/youth/etc.
If there is a leader (Nunh) change or 'foreign' women with kids from other Nunh join the group, would the Nunh in charge have to accept the kids from another Nunh? o.o
Just wondering if this is too animal-like (check the description of the Cat-Minion!) or not... Should head over to the Lore forums?

I think the lore forums would be your best bet. They're great at breaking down even the tiniest tidbit to understand how and why things are the way they are in the game. I'm sure there'd be some kitty experts in there that know all the ins and outs of the kitty cultures. Just remember to bring Antanias along with you, his yarn will likely be needed in that crowd.

Haven't posted in forever here.

Achievements in the last few weeks? Let's see... T6 finally cleared with my FC (we resumed raiding after a nearly 5 month break). 4 star weaver crafting achieved. Working on a picture to commemorate that event. (please look forward to it?)

Originally Posted by Coris

If there is a leader (Nunh) change or 'foreign' women with kids from other Nunh join the group, would the Nunh in charge have to accept the kids from another Nunh? o.o
Just wondering if this is too animal-like (check the description of the Cat-Minion!) or not... Should head over to the Lore forums?

Given the fact there's two Tias fighting for succession in the Forgotten Springs Village as part of the quests over there, I'm pretty sure that once either of them succeeds, they will not wipe out all the huntresses and children of the former leader -- that'd be mass genocide. I assume, however, that the loser between the two Tias would end up be dead (duel to the death, or killed along the father to eliminate competition and become leader by default) or exiled. Perhaps kept as Tia, depending on the character of the new leader.

Pretty much the same way a new mayor would not change everything about how a city is run, but some might, I'm certain that Mi'qotes aren't more or less likely to act like jerks -- Just like Hyurs or other species, it's all up to the individual.

Thanks for your replies!

Originally Posted by Docent

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Given the fact there's two Tias fighting for succession in the Forgotten Springs Village as part of the quests over there, I'm pretty sure that once either of them succeeds, they will not wipe out all the huntresses and children of the former leader -- that'd be mass genocide. I assume, however, that the loser between the two Tias would end up be dead (duel to the death, or killed along the father to eliminate competition and become leader by default) or exiled. Perhaps kept as Tia, depending on the character of the new leader.

Pretty much the same way a new mayor would not change everything about how a city is run, but some might, I'm certain that Mi'qotes aren't more or less likely to act like jerks -- Just like Hyurs or other species, it's all up to the individual.

I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?
If I want to publish my texts on the Lodestone, then I think I will have to ask again. Just to be sure. At the moment I more want to write them for myself and my FC (if they're interested xD)

Originally Posted by Coris

I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?

I agree you probably should get a more official answer from the Lore gurus, but I don't think any of the women of the Drake (U') tribe would need to leave because of a change of leadership. Some of them might decide to follow another male if they don't think highly enough of the new leadership, and thus opt to leave of their own will.

For the rest of them, however, I'm pretty sure a change of Nuhn is about as relevant as a municipal election and has no real bearing on their day to day life -- hunting, gathering, mending cloth, etc. Survival as a tribe of hunters in a hostile environment is hard work, and there's likely very little time to care about who sits on the throne back at home -- unless he happens to fancy your company that night, that is.

Originally Posted by Coris

Thanks for your replies!

I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?
If I want to publish my texts on the Lodestone, then I think I will have to ask again. Just to be sure. At the moment I more want to write them for myself and my FC (if they're interested xD)

I did something similar with my Character's background story if you remember. Basically, C'rysta Zeith is the Daughter of C'zeith Tia and C'ashya Ayzr. I wanted to create a background story where C'rysta's father was not one the Nuhn's who had more then 1 females "under his wing" so to speak. So, i made him a Tia instead.

You can find C'rysta's background story on my Lodestone Blog. Maybe you can come up with some idea's for your own background story. (^_^ )

Originally Posted by Kyan

you wouldn't want to mate with your grandpa, for example.

Well, could you could even technically mate with your grandpa as far as Sun'qotes go?
I suppose it could happen that a Nuhn loses his spot and manages to win it back 15 or so years later, and thus have a generation sired by his son... Avoiding this is why I assume defeated Nuhns are killed more often than exiled.

If it's the Nuhn who sired you, he's your dad. Mating with him when you get of age, regardless if he sired your mother or not, still makes him your direct father. That can be sound totally gross to us humans.
If he's retired or exiled, you wouldn't mate with your granddad.

Depending on how human or how "lion-like" Sun'qote society is, some things that are hard to consider for us humans might actually be perfectly fine for them. Anyone who manages to stay Nuhn for 30+ years got to have good genes. Wouldn't you want your daughters to have those to help them survive against the hazards of everyday life?

In a society where basic needs is far from assumed (shelter, survival, food, etc.), lots of things take a step before living to see the next day.

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It'd be interesting to see an in-game example of a mi'qote actively trying to seduce her father. For example, we know of a few specific female (and male) characters from the U' tribe in the Forgotten Sands. They don't say if U'Odh Nunh is their father, because we don't see their last names for the most part. They are U'goromuli, U'jughal, U'kahmuli, U'kahzuna, U'khuba Tia, U'konelua, U'linbho the Sand Devil, U'lolamo, U'mollpa, U'napa, U'ndomii, U'rahtalo, U'ralka, U'towali and U'tykha Tia. Seeing as U'Odh has been around for a bit, though, I'm pretty sure most of them would have "Odh" as their last name. I'll have to go take a look in-game and see if any of the female show sign of trying to please/seduce the old man (or maybe some more rebelious ones pinning for either sons)

That said, notice how little importance one's mother is to the Sun'qotes -- they don't take their name. I don't even think the concept of "grandmother" really exists to them because of that. They know who their father is, that's important to them. But otherwise, the "family tree" would be crazy lopsided. Their fathers have only one mother, and can be the father of multiple generations of sisters.

Also worth noting, males don't really keep their father's name. What they keep from them is (usually) the tribe. Unless they become Nuhns of a new tribe, they're pretty much going to inherit the Nuhn title and the entire tribe simply by growing up, helping the tribe prosper (after all, they will inherit it, so it's in their best interest to help out while they're Tia).

And here it is, the image I mentioned yesterday. (Hopefully you can direct link to IMGUR from here?)



Cloe, in her new Monk outfit, at one of my favourite location in the game.

I tried cloning the mad colouring scheme from No Game No Life, which I have watched in the last few months and really enjoyed.