Stats & Bonus Points

[Rillifane]

They won't have that much trouble keeping their mana pool up with similar reasons I listed except they have Energy Drain instead of Shroud of Saints, which half of the damage you deal is returned to you as HP and MP. At level 36, you get a trait that doubles the amount of MP you gain so it effectively becomes 100%, along with being on a separate cooldown but it does use one of your aether stacks which stacks up to three.

If i'm not mistaken they won't be using energy drain as much as some of their other abilities need to consume that buff to be used. (Lustrate and sacred soil both need it). Plus the amount of MP restored is based upon the damage you dealt, so INT would help that.

[VanWulfen]

If i'm not mistaken they won't be using energy drain as much as some of their other abilities need to consume that buff to be used. (Lustrate and sacred soil both need it). Plus the amount of MP restored is based upon the damage you dealt, so INT would help that.

Yeah, I know about the others moves and INT is still a use for SCH, like you said. It'll most likely boil down to INT vs MND on SCH, so maybe 15/15 would be the optimal way to go but putting PIE isn't worth it. Plus Energy Drain has 150 potency which is a great.

[Flemian]

So far I used up all my points on MND as well, but I was wondering how many PIE I'm going to need for later/endgame.

Off: Btw how can I get rid of my head/mask on the avatar? :/

[NintenPyjak64]

So far I used up all my points on MND as well, but I was wondering how many PIE I'm going to need for later/endgame.

Probably none. My reasoning: Vanya of Healing set (NQ and unmelded with WHM relic) has +18 PIE. Darklight of Healing (Relic weapon) gives +93. AF+1 (with Relic +1 on both WHM and SCH with Hero of Healing accesories) gives +151 PIE. That's not including your base PIE at level 50. Plus with simple AF (and the Chiran staff) I had 4k MP already on my WHM, so unless I'm spamming Cure IIs, MP shouldn't be an issue

[Flemian]

Probably none. My reasoning: Vanya of Healing set (NQ and unmelded with WHM relic) has +18 PIE. Darklight of Healing (Relic weapon) gives +93. AF+1 (with Relic +1 on both WHM and SCH with Hero of Healing accesories) gives +151 PIE. That's not including your base PIE at level 50. Plus with simple AF (and the Chiran staff) I had 4k MP already on my WHM, so unless I'm spamming Cure IIs, MP shouldn't be an issue

A thanks a lot, I haven't played 1.0 nor the first 3 beta and I'm not really into endgame content/stat/sets. Totally forgot about the stats for set bonuses. Thanks! All MND that is, then.

[Jeryhn]

MND for CNJ/WHM is the definite go-to stat. Allocate away.

For ACN and its jobs its a harder sell, but Cleric Stance exists. You could attribute full MND for your Arcanist, and then simply click on Cleric's fulltime for whenever you're on Arcanist or Summoner. Not to mention, this would give Scholar an additional option to enhance their DoTs for whenever constant healing isn't needed. And given that CNJ and THM are SMN/SCH's subclasses, I can't think of much else I'd fill the cross-class slots with besides Stoneskin, Aero, Thunder, and Swiftcast anyway. Unless you don't have a CNJ/WHM around, and then you can drop one of the DoTs for Protect.

[Xilrasis]

MND for CNJ/WHM is the definite go-to stat. Allocate away.

For ACN and its jobs its a harder sell, but Cleric Stance exists. You could attribute full MND for your Arcanist, and then simply click on Cleric's fulltime for whenever you're on Arcanist or Summoner. Not to mention, this would give Scholar an additional option to enhance their DoTs for whenever constant healing isn't needed. And given that CNJ and THM are SMN/SCH's subclasses, I can't think of much else I'd fill the cross-class slots with besides Stoneskin, Aero, Thunder, and Swiftcast anyway. Unless you don't have a CNJ/WHM around, and then you can drop one of the DoTs for Protect.

ACN/SMN cannot use cleric stance. Only SCH can of the arcanist classes, meaning there is no way around the stat differential.

[naaros]

I plan on putting points into MND for my CNJ/WHM as well as Scholar I think.

MND for CNJ/WHM is the definite go-to stat. Allocate away.

For ACN and its jobs its a harder sell, but Cleric Stance exists. You could attribute full MND for your Arcanist, and then simply click on Cleric's fulltime for whenever you're on Arcanist or Summoner. Not to mention, this would give Scholar an additional option to enhance their DoTs for whenever constant healing isn't needed. And given that CNJ and THM are SMN/SCH's subclasses, I can't think of much else I'd fill the cross-class slots with besides Stoneskin, Aero, Thunder, and Swiftcast anyway. Unless you don't have a CNJ/WHM around, and then you can drop one of the DoTs for Protect.

Are you Jeryhn from FFXI/Cerberus? :P

[Sneakaboo]

I can't create my own thread yet so tossing here some stat thoughts about the scholar
First a few things to take into account.

Mind (MND) - Healing Magic Potency.
Piety (PIE) – MP Pool

Aetherflow: Restores 20% of maximum MP and on a 1 minute cooldown (it also gives you an awesome 90% damage reduction barrier for 15 seconds)


When ever mind>piety in any situation is going to depend on three things:


1: Succor: Restores target's HP. Cure Potency: 300
Additional Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equalling the amount of HP restored. When critical HP is restored, damage nullification is doubled for 30s.

Succor2: Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members. Cure Potency: 150
Additional Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equalling the amount of HP restored for 30s.


2: How does the fairy scale with mind/crit and haste?
In fact does it scale at all?


3: How will your mana hold out with a full focus on mind and is it worth putting points in piety at all or is the piety gained from gear good enough.



Will over healing leave shields?

If succor2 will apply the barrier when you overheal you can pre shield people by moving around, this will be very good in 24 man raids.
How ever this will also drain your mana.
In this scenario having a large mana pool will net you more mana back from aetherflow and eventually will net your more healing.


Fairy scaling

Whispering Dawn: Will this scale with haste/crit and will it scale with your mind if so how much (will it get another hot tick?)

Embrace: Same thing.

The reason why this is interesting is because in terms of hps and safety in general having spell speed>crit.
Which means both you and your fairy will have a cast speed of 1.5 in the end instead of 2.0.

Basically if the fairy scales you might not want to use to many points in piety even though you could use the mana to pre shield.
The pets healing might overshadow a bit of your extra mana since I doubt it can use piety (but I'm not sure)



The barrier


Simply put if the barrier won't apply when you over heal there is no point of picking up crit.
In fact in that case you might as well avoid it like the plague.
Even when it applies on crit from succor 1 it's still very questionable when ever you could use it the reason why is this:

Mind: Raw through put
Spell speed: Faster cast/gbc
Piety: In case you go oom and being able to spam more succor 2 pre damage for shields
Crit: Like in any MMORPG unreliable for healers, but if your mana is fine it will net you more healing than piety does.

So what stats does a scholar need?
Until we know how the pet scales it is very hard to say.


Though my main thought would be: MDN>spell haste>piety>crit