Stats & Bonus Points

[slakyak]

I've put a little in piety but mostly going with mind, which is prob the worst thing to do... I should just have picked one shouldnt I?!!

Maybe there'll be a RDM type job with a cross-class Refresh meaning the max MP isn't so important.

A lot will depend on how future support classes go (is there a Mage's Ballad for bard? I haven't played it yet)

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Hi OP,

At the moment, I feel the stat points would benefit in one of three areas.

Vitality for increased max HP.
Mind for increased healing magic potency. When using the ability, Cleric's Stance, the Mind stat is used for attack magic potency instead.
Piety for increased max MP, increased MP regen in-combat, and increased MP regen between encounters.

From what I have seen so far in Phase 4 / Open Beta, I am personally pursuing Mind for stat point for increased healing during most encounters. I hope to make up any shortcomings in my max HP through gear, such as +Mind accessories melded with +Vitality materia. Will need to gauge how Shroud of Saints and supplementary MP from Bard's Mage Ballad play in before considering Piety (MP did not seem an issue as much in Phase 4 content as it did in Phase 3).

Should I encounter a series of area attacks or misfortunes that a durable healer could have endured, I will most likely adopt the "a dead healer is no healer at all" philosophy and respec to include Vitality, preferably until I can survive with a full Stoneskin.

[RainStarfall]

there is indeed mages ballad, but with both THM and ACN able to recover their own mp bards usually sing the TP refresh song for the DD in extended fights convincing them to sing for just you may require some work~

[Estellios]

there is indeed mages ballad, but with both THM and ACN able to recover their own mp bards usually sing the TP refresh song for the DD in extended fights convincing them to sing for just you may require some work~

I don't know how it is for ACN, but people seem to not realize that having Ballad on BLM means you can stay in your fire stance for a longer period of time which means that you have a lot less downtime where your damage is low (the time you are waiting on Blizzard ticks).

Also, you don't have to wait for your WHM's MP to be low to sing ballad. Ballad sung early can keep their MP up longer, and later in the fight when DD need TP you can Paeon for them. You can also do the reverse, as long as both DPS and Mages are getting attention at some point.

[AAAFate]

How does the stat relocation work at later levels? How much does it cost? Is it based on level or?

Curious to know if I can add stats for low level play, but once I am higher level re do them to stack MND or something, without it costing more.

[Valiant]

How does the stat relocation work at later levels? How much does it cost? Is it based on level or?

Curious to know if I can add stats for low level play, but once I am higher level re do them to stack MND or something, without it costing more.

For low or high level play it doesn't affect the play as much as you would want.. For a WHM Cure potency +? and +?% adds more to healing than mind. Not that its not important to spec well. The points are best used where you feel you have the greatest weakness as a healer. If you trust in your mana usage/control place all to mind, otherwise piety would benefit you more

[Claire_Pendragon]

The difference in MND seemed to be too minimal to care about.

However, if fights ever drag out long enough, putting points into PIE seems like it can be useful at endgame. (Not for simply having a larger pool, I dont even look at that as a reason)

The sole reason being In Combat MP Refresh.

You regen 2% of your max MP every tick (3 seconds) during combat.

So if combat drags out long enough, and u have enough MP, u can see a reasonable amount of mp coming back to u every tick.
But until I can compare endgame stats to eachother, and know how long fights drag out (if at all) I cant really make a good comparison of the 2 stats.

[VanWulfen]

Stacking piety on white mage is absolutly useless. There is no real reason to put points into anything else besides mind and it influces your average heal well. Adding in 10 points of mind on a person that has a weapon with 61 magic damage, 202 determation (Which is your lv50's base DTR iirc), goes from the average cure I heal of 409HP(272MND) to 421HP (282MND). Even further, they made heals even stronger in phase 4, such as making Cure I 400 potency instead of 300.

What's the point of stacking for MP when you have Mage's Ballard, Shroud of Saints that gives you a refresh potency of 80 along with cutting your enmity by half and items, to keep your MP up.

[Rillifane]

Stacking piety on white mage is absolutly useless. There is no real reason to put points into anything else besides mind and it influces your average heal well. Adding in 10 points of mind on a person that has a weapon with 61 magic damage, 202 determation (Which is your lv50's base DTR iirc), goes from the average cure I heal of 409HP(272MND) to 421HP (282MND). Even further, they made heals even stronger in phase 4, such as making Cure I 400 potency instead of 300.

What's the point of stacking for MP when you have Mage's Ballard, Shroud of Saints that gives you a refresh potency of 80 along with cutting your enmity by half and items, to keep your MP up.

Yeah for whm piety doesn't seem that useful, but could be different for scholar, as only part of their job is healing, another part of a scholar's role is still keeping their dots up. Not to mention the fairies heal as well and i don't think they take any advantage of increasing a scholar base MND.

[VanWulfen]

Yeah for whm piety doesn't seem that useful, but could be different for scholar, as only part of their job is healing, another part of a scholar's role is still keeping their dots up. Not to mention the fairies heal as well and i don't think they take any advantage of increasing a scholar base MND.

They won't have that much trouble keeping their mana pool up with similar reasons I listed except they have Energy Drain instead of Shroud of Saints, which half of the damage you deal is returned to you as HP and MP. At level 36, you get a trait that doubles the amount of MP you gain so it effectively becomes 100%, along with being on a separate cooldown but it does use one of your aether stacks which stacks up to three.

Quick note is that SCH gets access to Cleric Stance so if extra damage is needed, you can do a quick switch and that switches your INT and MND.