[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[TheVedis]

ok link the info about it. I personally never seen it. And i read everything out about this game. sorry but an exploiter will say anything claiming proof. Link the info please

I still think its an exploit or something to be fixed. I fail to see how SE allows "heros" to not act the part.

go look at the patch notes

its not an exploit

and if you dont want to, then you give up all rights to argue the point anymore as you arent willing to back your side of it up either, we have

[Jibe]

ok link the info about it. I personally never seen it. And i read everything out about this game. sorry but an exploiter will say anything claiming proof. Link the info please

I still think its an exploit or something to be fixed. I fail to see how SE allows "heros" to not act the part.

This. I'm still waiting for a link as well, because in another thread alot of people said that SE "stated" this was what they wanted to happen (Intentional leve failures for sp gain). I asked for a link to that but was roundly ignored. I personally don't see it as an exploit, but as I've said before IMO its def contrary to the spirit of the game.

[Krausus]

Of course grinding is viable, always. If you'd rather grind because you enjoy that more than leves, that makes it viable.

I didn't say it wasn't viable i said it wasn't reasonable, sure people can do it sure its an option, that doesn't make it a good one though. you people are arguing for the sake of argument. Grinding is a shit way to rank up, everyone knows it, its one of the largest complaints of the FFXIV community it is the #1 reason why everyone leve links and leve fails if grinding was a good way to rank then no one would be doing the boring ass leves, plain and simple you cant argue that.

[TheVedis]

This. I'm still waiting for a link as well, because in another thread alot of people said that SE "stated" this was what they wanted to happen (Intentional leve failures for sp gain). I asked for a link to that but was roundly ignored. I personally don't see it as an exploit, but as I've said before IMO its def contrary to the spirit of the game.

its in the patch notes
you dont need someone to link you to something you can find easily on this site, in the patch notes section

[DeadRiser]

I like how even you, op, are derailing your own thread. We were talking about leves and why people abandon them.



Just for you.

Who cares if he's derailing his topic. Every other (most) thread derails from the original topic. It's just the way people work.
And now that you bring up your signature, I see that you have a DoH at r49. You spent a lot of time grinding did you not with a couple of local leves every so often. And it's about just as high as your DoM classes. What's the difference

its in the patch notes
you dont need someone to link you to something you can find easily on this site, in the patch notes section

Then it wouldn't be so hard for you to link then would it not? I have other threads to attend to, not just look for some link that you state there is

[Belial]

yes but your whole argument is that grinding is viable always, it isn't, it isn't until you actually get to raptor parties, even coblyns are no longer good to grind at lower ranks.

False. You haven't tried any trial and error with groups/mobs. There ARE mobs THROUGHOUT the ranking process in which you can have VIABLE SP gains. If you can't do your research to find them, or trial and error, then don't make comments about things you clearly do not understand. Guildleves can be finished in under 2-3 hours. I still have OVER a full day to gain SP. And you're going to tell me that going and grinding mobs at this point is not viable for SP?

[solracht]

Coblyns were mostly used for solo grinds.
I was effectively grinding on Billys with another friend at r20 for 400 sp a kill 2 days ago.
Crabs were always fun to grind on, end efts too.

Doesn't count if this was before rank 24, btw. Not being rude or anything but experience point values are really inflated before then. Past 24, you reach the normal game.

Doesn't really matter whether you're defending guildleves, grinding, behests, or slamming your head against the wall, it all works well before rank 24. The TNRs are low, and the experience points you get are boosted.

[tou]

And now that you bring up your signature, I see that you have a DoH at r49. You spent a lot of time grinding did you not with a couple of local leves every so often. And it's about just as high as your DoM classes. What's the difference

The difference is you are not given an option when crafting (DoH) vs if you are leveling DoM or DoW. You can either do leves which are efficient if linked and abandoned or grind which isn't efficient at ALL.

[Jibe]

I didn't say it wasn't viable i said it wasn't reasonable, sure people can do it sure its an option, that doesn't make it a good one though. you people are arguing for the sake of argument. Grinding is a shit way to rank up, everyone knows it, its one of the largest complaints of the FFXIV community it is the #1 reason why everyone leve links and leve fails if grinding was a good way to rank then no one would be doing the boring ass leves, plain and simple you cant argue that.

yes but your whole argument is that grinding is viable always, it isn't, it isn't until you actually get to raptor parties, even coblyns are no longer good to grind at lower ranks.

You did say it wasnt viable. If you want to change and now say it wasn't reasonable I agree with you that if you want the most SP for your time it may not be reasonable to alot of people, but that doesn't mean its not viable if you prefer it to leves.

[Krausus]

False. You haven't tried any trial and error with groups/mobs. There ARE mobs THROUGHOUT the ranking process in which you can have VIABLE SP gains. If you can't do your research to find them, or trial and error, then don't make comments about things you clearly do not understand. Guildleves can be finished in under 2-3 hours. I still have OVER a full day to gain SP. And you're going to tell me that going and grinding mobs at this point is not viable for SP?

I mis typed and typed viable what i meant was reasonable, if sp gains where good by grinding then everyone would be doing it.