ffxi gameplay was not slow

[Shiyo]

I guess fun is relative. I find this system fun, it can be more challenging, but its fun. The crab parties in casseopia and eft parties in the black shroud were places where the mobs can chew your face off. The fight is there if you look for it.

And really? You've never kited? I haven't played a mage class yet, but I did it yesterday solo on a leve! The ranged attacks make it easier than you might think.

I don't even know how to reply to this, you couldn't be more wrong. How do you kite mobs that instantly leash while you have the clunkiest casting/movement system to ever exist in a MMO? Have you ever tried actually kiting? It's not possible, at all.

I'm also not exactly sure how you think this system can "be more challenging", you don't manage your MP, CDs, hate, positioning, ANYTHING. You mindless spam -ga'd heals/buffs and randomly nuke without a care in the world.

[Kallera]

I don't even know how to reply to this, you couldn't be more wrong. How do you kite mobs that instantly leash while you have the clunkiest casting/movement system to ever exist in a MMO? Have you ever tried actually kiting? It's not possible, at all.

I'm also not exactly sure how you think this system can "be more challenging", you don't manage your MP, CDs, hate, positioning, ANYTHING. You mindless spam -ga'd heals/buffs and randomly nuke without a care in the world.

I've tried kiting, I was facing mobs that did not leash in a leve, and I got it to work. I was actually kinda hoping they would leash, but nope, just kept on coming while I had to recover hp on the go.

One word, Dodo. When the game started the dodo was practically legendary for taking out players that had even conned blue to it, before they found out you can POSITION yourself around it, thus avoiding its special attack.

Not enough? Megalocrabs in one of the Gridania Leves, island crabs in Bloodshore. not exactly a maindless affair considering how crabs can assume a guard stance, while the other crabs pound away. I have seen hate stolen away from the tank on several occasions, mostly from either heals or an ambitious archer.
As I said, there are more challenging fights if you look for them. There are mobs and leves with mobs that are more than a match for any party. Just how challenging, honestly was FFXI in an exp party, if those level 75-80 mobs were being floored by the hundreds in merit parties and TP burn parties, in many of them crowd control was the only thing keep it going.

Let me repeat that for you: Many exp parties in FFXI got their loads of kills by handling one mob at a time, having all other "adds" bound, slept, or otherwise rendered harmless.

There are mobs in FFXIV at and past that level, are they being taken out with similar impunity by lvl 50s? I haven't seen nor heard of it.

But, they are revamping FFXIV's system, they said they are revamping the system. I'd rather it not be one with auto attack, but I'll wait and see.

[Dyne]

If you thought ffxi combat was slow, you were that dark knight that nobody likes, super whiff fest, didn't eat food, and didn't pay attention. The rest of us were sweating bullets trying to make sure utsusemi was up, or using paralyna and haste to keep the tank alive, or making sure you stun that mob on time or your party wipes, because it only takes a split second for everything to get horribly wrong. The whole alliance can wipe if a skill chain and magic burst was missed or a bard 2 houred too soon or too late. It is those moments that are missing in ffxiv.

[Dyne]

If ffxiv leves are so fun, why are people so drained after 2-3 hours of it. In ffxi, I partied 18 hours straight with very short breaks for food and bathroom no problem.

[Cairdeas]

If ffxiv leves are so fun, why are people so drained after 2-3 hours of it. In ffxi, I partied 18 hours straight with very short breaks for food and bathroom no problem.

I think its the constant running around vs standing in one area pulling mobs to you.

[Akumu]

If ffxiv leves are so fun, why are people so drained after 2-3 hours of it. In ffxi, I partied 18 hours straight with very short breaks for food and bathroom no problem.

I think its the constant running around vs standing in one area pulling mobs to you.

This. It makes you wonder why do ffxi vets hate leves so much when all we did before was stand in one spot for hours killing the same thing. At least now we get to move with some added variety. >.> lol

The main problem is most people are sick of those kind of grinds. Most games you have to grind for levels but there are a lot of ways to make it more enjoyable. Leves also are for casuals but since it's really the ONLY content people are annoyed. Once there is more to do those with time won't care and those with little would request more balance and to add more of a variety.

[Kirith]

This. It makes you wonder why do ffxi vets hate leves so much when all we did before was stand in one spot for hours killing the same thing. At least now we get to move with some added variety. >.> lol

No one is really saying FFXI parties were incredibly fun or brilliant. All the opposite, but they were STILL more entertaining than leves, which are perhaps the worst type of content i have ever seen in a mmorpg. Party dynamics were much more relaxing, leveling up was much more important, you always played with other 5 people and the monsters were capable of killing any of you in less than a minute singularly... it's a combination of factors, really.

And yes, when there is more content leves won't be as annoying, but they added sidequests and those are just the same as leves. Wonder what's with that. When will we see engaging content at last?

[Akumu]

And yes, when there is more content leves won't be as annoying, but they added sidequests and those are just the same as leves. Wonder what's with that. When will we see engaging content at last?

Yoshi-P leads us to believe we will get some content after the battle mechanics are fixed. So i'm assuming after patch 1.17 since we are getting dungeons(maybe companies?) a patch or two after that. Either way he will need to up the tempo soon since tension is rising out of control from the most supportive base of players.

[Malakhim]

If ffxiv leves are so fun, why are people so drained after 2-3 hours of it. In ffxi, I partied 18 hours straight with very short breaks for food and bathroom no problem.

Probably because that's how long it took to gain a level.

[Kallera]

If you thought ffxi combat was slow, you were that dark knight that nobody likes, super whiff fest, didn't eat food, and didn't pay attention. The rest of us were sweating bullets trying to make sure utsusemi was up, or using paralyna and haste to keep the tank alive, or making sure you stun that mob on time or your party wipes, because it only takes a split second for everything to get horribly wrong. The whole alliance can wipe if a skill chain and magic burst was missed or a bard 2 houred too soon or too late. It is those moments that are missing in ffxiv.

You assume way too much for me to be convinced you actually played this game for any appreciable length of time, much less tried out a party on the higher leve difficulties...