[Dev 1024] Linkshell Administration Options

[Rhianu]

Thursday - saying the color tweak bar you added is actually just on/off switch but thought NA's also thought of that bar as a seek bar

Yeah, to me that actually seems like another one of the design flaws in FFXIV's interface. A seek bar like that should never be used to represent a two-state switch. If you ask me, that's just bad interface design. Those kinds of slider bars should only be used as seek bars for adjusting options with a range of variables (like from 1 to 100). A two-state switch should be a checkbox, not a seek bar or slider. That's why I used the bar the way I did in that image: because that's how you're supposed to use a seek bar. Kind of a subtle hint to SE, lol.

Anyway, thanks for the translation.

[Uzziah]

I can understand why a complete overhaul is needed. I can only imagine the mistakes made by the initial devs. We have no idea why this game turned out the way it did and SE will NEVER step up and tell us the truth so we can only make assumptions. I've been a developer for over 20 years and I have some pretty good ideas of what's going on. I can tell you this much, SE made some serious mistakes, many in the staffing of the initial teams that were responsible for developing this game. Believe me, they are paying for their mistakes dearly and you can bet they won't make them again.

However, the point remains that we, the players are still screwed and still waiting. I will be ill if one more person asks for my patience after I've been loyal to them for over a year. (mainly because there isn't anything else out there worth playing, but that may soon change too) A year is more than ampel time to get this thing going. I hope they have a player base left by the time they finally get this thing they call a game, up to a professional standard.

[Victor]

Re: Rukkirii's last post here:

It would be wonderful if these changes could be proceeded with hastily. An online game simply needs them and I don't think it's a stretch to say that almost every player has noticed their absence. Please please please get these additions implemented as soon as possible

[Keftenk]

Please please please get these additions implemented as soon as possible

Soon as possible is going to be 6-9 months ;=;

[Grim_Lion]

Grim Lion my friend. Does it serve any purpose to ask why* they programmed the game as it is?

I believe they have already received their backlash hard enough and are still getting it. They have lost millions of yens, they still keep loosing money as we speak, and will keep loosing until several years after the game starts charging fees. They have acknowledged several times now there are server problems they are trying to fix.

What else do they need to say or do so you feel better? Besides keeping the servers up, keeping the game free, opening up to the fans like never before in SE's history and apologizing over and over again for their blunder. What else Grim Lion? What else is there to do? Go ahead...

I dont expect them to answer a question like that on a forum like this. Its a general question to make a point.

I dont think you get it. I dont care about their jobs, their apologies, or really anything else other than a quality game to play.

IMHO, I dont even think that these forums are needed. Our suggestions shouldnt be needed as much as they are with this game. Once again, they are supposed to be the professionals. They are supposed to know how to create an MMO. This isnt an indi-open-source game that we all are supposed to have an opinion in. I bought this game because I wanted a hard set traditional final fantasy XI type game with the very least more options that XI itself and that has completely failed so far. Dont fool yourself if you think some more missions (companys), another dungeon (that will be cleaned out and empty in 3 weeks), or chocobos are going to bring people back, or make this game compeat with others on the market.... This game has possibly years to even catch up to FFxi.

God forbid that I expected something playable after a year of release when I bought the C.E.

I wouldnt even be mad if they decided to pull the plug on this game and restart for a window after "Titan" is released. Thats how long I think it will take to fix this game at this pace.

Its a year after release. No one cares about the truth, realities or mishaps, they only see this game in basiaclly the same state it was 12 months ago and at this pace its going to take years to fix. This is unacceptable, people are getting tired and more importantly just giving up on this process and restructure. Yoshi is cool and all, but hes not the second coming of jebus, at least yet, and I dont think its fair to ask him to be.

[Mightyg]

What I'd like to see:

Add/Remove member for admins, Add/Remove admin for leader.

LS announcments for weekly and daily messages so you could have the overall message, and specific messages for the days activities.

An option for the leader to multisend gil to all selected members on a list so gil can be distributed evenly to all active members for a weeks activities.

Commendations that last a month so leaders can award gold stars to members that are especially helpful/consistent. admins could grant silver stars. Would show up under your crest and in the ls list. Would be temporary so people wouldn't just give them out for looks to friends.

New crest designs and color palate that fits the world so they're distinct but not a stark contrast to everything else. rings, bracelets, necklaces, and shoulder pauldrons with a small visual spot for linkshells crest to be added.

a linkshell headquarters room in the bazaar zone where meeting could be held, free teleports, linkshell leves could be distributed there, community box that could be filled with consumable items like meds, food, and ammo. Allowing individual members to take a stack a week or day. trophy skulls of boss kills adorning the walls, along with banners and other citations.

[Mightyg]

I dont expect them to answer a question like that on a forum like this. Its a general question to make a point.

I dont think you get it. I dont care about their jobs, their apologies, or really anything else other than a quality game to play.

IMHO, I dont even think that these forums are needed. Our suggestions shouldnt be needed as much as they are with this game. Once again, they are supposed to be the professionals. They are supposed to know how to create an MMO. This isnt an indi-open-source game that we all are supposed to have an opinion in. I bought this game because I wanted a hard set traditional final fantasy XI type game with the very least more options that XI itself and that has completely failed so far. Dont fool yourself if you think some more missions (companys), another dungeon (that will be cleaned out and empty in 3 weeks), or chocobos are going to bring people back, or make this game compeat with others on the market.... This game has possibly years to even catch up to FFxi.

God forbid that I expected something playable after a year of release when I bought the C.E.

I wouldnt even be mad if they decided to pull the plug on this game and restart for a window after "Titan" is released. Thats how long I think it will take to fix this game at this pace.

Its a year after release. No one cares about the truth, realities or mishaps, they only see this game in basiaclly the same state it was 12 months ago and at this pace its going to take years to fix. This is unacceptable, people are getting tired and more importantly just giving up on this process and restructure. Yoshi is cool and all, but hes not the second coming of jebus, at least yet, and I dont think its fair to ask him to be.

You should have seen how hard set and traditional FFXI was in it's first 2 years.

[Grim_Lion]

You should have seen how hard set and traditional FFXI was in it's first 2 years.

This isnt FFxi. Lesson should have been learned. Method perfected and refined. Application and quality improved.

There shouldnt be a regression. Customers shouldn't have to tell them this.

Dont worry, I remeber how it was when it was released here in NA, and the rumors of how bad it was. That doesnt make it right or necessary or acceptable any longer.

[kwestro]

yup... . . . . . !

[Holland]

This isnt FFxi. Lesson should have been learned. Method perfected and refined. Application and quality improved.

There shouldnt be a regression. Customers shouldn't have to tell them this.

Dont worry, I remeber how it was when it was released here in NA, and the rumors of how bad it was. That doesnt make it right or necessary or acceptable any longer.

"This is not what I was promised"
"After seeing FFXI, why this game was released like this?"
"They should have learned from FFXI and build upon it"

Etc, etc, etc.

All those things and many, many more have been said for the past year. We all know, we complained non stop. Some of us dont even play that much, because its not worth it to play an unfinished game.

But you have not yet answered my question. They are doing everything they can to try and turn this game around, weather they fail or succeed is irrelevant. They are doing everything they can with what has been given to them by SE.

What else do you think they can do?

What would you do? (Thinking that, like every project, you have been given a budget and a time frame to fix the issues)

Two simple questions with really long and complex answers.

I think one year is enough time to get pass the "Why did this game fail when it had so many things going for it" mindset. It already happened. No reason to cry for spilled milk after a long year. If you take the time to see past your dissatisfaction, you will remember the teams were changed, the direction of the game had to be redesigned, the core mechanics are still being re-done and blah blah blah the same information we know since God knows when, but that anyone with enough working brain cells know its not something that is doable in three to six months (Even if you do not have knowledge of game development, like myself).

I see by your history you are a pretty active player, you like playing the game. But you are playing an unfinished game and at the same time you are complaining the game is not finished, so why do you keep playing? why dont you wait until is worthy of your money and then come back? Take a break, or... keep playing the game, get past the same repetitive complaints about what should have been and is not and look forward to changes the developer is willing to put out so you are a happy customer.