More primals than elements?

[Taelyn]

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I don't believe Midgardsormr (or Behemoth for that matter) are primals. Rather, they are just really old beasties. Midgardsormr has been referred to as a King amongst dragon kind. I believe Bahamut is the dragon's primal.

[jomoru]

I am counting a little more than 9

Earth: Titan
Fire: Ifrit
Wind: Garuda
Water: Leviathan
Ice: Shiva
Lightning: Ramuh
Odin
Behemoth
Elder Primal Bahamut

We know Siren will be in the game.
There's Midgardsormr

don't know if I'm forgetting any others at this moment.

Midgardsromr left a corpse.. Primals don't do that.

I don't believe Midgardsormr (or Behemoth for that matter) are primals. Rather, they are just really old beasties. Midgardsormr has been referred to as a King amongst dragon kind. I believe Bahamut is the dragon's primal.

Behemoth is the first thing we see in the "Primals unleashed" trailer.

[Glide]

Ifrit: Primal of the Amalj'aa.
Garuda: Primal of the Ixal.
Titan: Primal of the Kobolds.
Leviathan: Primal of the Sahagin.
Good King Moggle Mog XII: Primal of the Moogles.
Ramuh: Primal of the Sylphs.
Shiva: A confirmed primal of an unknown Beastkin to the north. All that is known is they are very large and have an icy demeanor.
Odin: described as a roaming Elder Primal.
Bahamut: primal of the Dragons; Bahamut used to be incarcerated inside Dalamud.

Midgardsormr was killed in the Battle of Silvertear Skies and its seal on the aether beneath Silvertear Lake was broken.

Out of all the beast tribes, Goblins and Qiqirn are the only ones whose primals are currently unknow

[finiteHP]

Out of all the beast tribes, Goblins and Qiqirn are the only ones whose primals are currently unknow

The Mamool Ja's primal is also unknown.

[NoloeTazier]

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Behemoth is the first thing we see in the "Primals unleashed" trailer.

First thing I said when I saw the video "Showing the Behemoth FATE is going to confuse new players." Behemoth is not a Primal, it's more like a HNM FATE with Drops.

To clear up confusion. Midgarsormr and Nidhogg are not Primals. Good King Moggle Mog XIIth was referred to as a Primal fight up until recently. In essence it's still a Primal fight even if he's not a true "Primal." For those that didn't get to experience the fight here is the story of Good King Moggle Mog XIIth.

The Mamool Ja are currently in Eorzea to work as Mercenaries (and they also bring the Lore that there is land to the west of Vylbrand).

As of currently we do not know if any other Primals besides Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, and Ramuh have been summoned into the realm. There's no dialogue (yet) of the Paragons having taught the Gigas/Giants to use Shiva around the same time as the other Beast tribes or if taught recently. The Beastmen may worship a Primal (the Ixali worshipped Garuda well before being able to summon her) without even being able to summon them and interact with said Primal.

[RolandDebreton]

The Mamool Ja are currently in Eorzea to work as Mercenaries (and they also bring the Lore that there is land to the west of Vylbrand).

Nice find, I love little bits like this. Did I hear correctly that there is a large land mass to the south? As opposed to Ilsabard northward and Othard to the far east.

[Akoree]

Hey guys, I've sprinted through this thread before posting this but I didn't see anyone bringing up the 1.0 Cinematic of the battle of silvertear lake when the primals were "unsealed" by the ship and Midgasormir. (sorry if someone did and I skipped your post)

More primals than there are elements, you say? Look at the amount of lights flying away... there are a lot more than 6 lol. I'm not saying ALL the lights in the cinematic were primals since..well..there was an explosion after all. But I'm betting most of those were so there's really no limit to the amount of bosses the devs can bring forth in the patches after release. In fact I'm pretty sure they are giving us the present set of Primals not because they are locked in lore as being 1 per element, but rather because the variety in element brings more visual diversity and identity to each of them. =)

[RolandDebreton]

Hey guys, I've sprinted through this thread before posting this but I didn't see anyone bringing up the 1.0 Cinematic of the battle of silvertear lake when the primals were "unsealed" by the ship and Midgasormir. (sorry if someone did and I skipped your post).....Look at the amount of lights flying away... there are a lot more than 6 lol. I'm not saying ALL the lights in the cinematic were primals since..well..there was an explosion after all. But I'm betting most of those were so there's really no limit to the amount of bosses the devs can bring forth in the patches after release.

Good point, some of them may be baby Primals since they have few/no worshipers history.

[NoloeTazier]

Nice find, I love little bits like this. Did I hear correctly that there is a large land mass to the south? As opposed to Ilsabard northward and Othard to the far east.

The Lalafell come from an island-chain continent to the south. I think the Miqo'te are from the same islands but their islands were probably larger since they liked to hunt for their food while Lalafell liked to fish.

Aldenard, Othard, and Islabard are the 3-major continents of Hydaelyn. The Roegadyn have their fishing lands to the north (might be part of Islabard), the southern island chain continent (Lalafell and Miqo'te come from), and now the land to the west of Vylbrand where the Mamool Ja have come from.

[Skies]

The Lalafell come from an island-chain continent to the south. I think the Miqo'te are from the same islands but their islands were probably larger since they liked to hunt for their food while Lalafell liked to fish.

Aldenard, Othard, and Islabard are the 3-major continents of Hydaelyn. The Roegadyn have their fishing lands to the north (might be part of Islabard), the southern island chain continent (Lalafell and Miqo'te come from), and now the land to the west of Vylbrand where the Mamool Ja have come from.

Just to add a bit more information, the southern lands are ALSO the origin of arcanima, originally from... If... Memory serves me... Astrologists who discovered that the geometrical patterns used in their studies held power, which in turn led to shifting from astrology to directed arcanima studies.