The Monk Temple

[kataly]

That's how it's work

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

[Valsh]

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

Even without dragon kick debuff it should still be more potency than Snap Punch assuming it gets to run for the full duration.

[Rapiso]

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

Dummies, no.

[enil]

Dummies, no.

Are Dummies an ideal test case?
I don't know how it works in FFXIV but does defence work exactly the same vs DoTs and DD?

[Almalexia]

A DoT is basically an X potency WS (where X is the potency of the DoT) that occurs every 3 seconds. Calculations for DoT damage are exactly the same as direct damage.

[LiuKang]

Here's a comparison of Monk's Mythology gear vs. Allagan gear from Coil.

http://i.imgur.com/4FFBsD3.jpg

[Miridori]

How about off GCD skill. What are some sustainable/spammable option. I would imagine Steel Peak is not one of them....

[SedoSan]

I'm very disappointed with monk's output power... Lets see why:

• Need to build GL3 at every fight so that's at least 12 seconds of no optimum damage
• Perfect balance has a 5 3 minutes cool down so don't use it as an excuse
• In a dungeon, moving from one location to another would probably make you lose GL3 (thus overall lower DPS)
• HP!, Monks always had pride with their enormous HP! I want my HP to be over NINE THOUSAAAAND
• Always need to be moving between back and flank (harder to do with some mobs like demon wall, etc...)
• We have to abide by our rotation in order to keep GL3 up
• Even if we do everything perfectly, other classes EASILY out damage us...

I did AK yesterday with my brothers, me being a monk, one of them being a summoner... I averaged around 360k damage (130 DPS) while he did around 420k damage (160 DPS) not to mention that his summons each did around 40 DPS extra!
I might have done slightly more damage to the final boss but still not satisfied.
I had avengers HQ equipped with some other darklight gear and lv55~60 items.

While I only did around (130) DPS in AK, I could easily strike 200+ DPS on striking dummy in dragonhead. I use FFXIV-APP parser (which is very cool btw). But in real situation such as dungeons where you have to rebuild GL3 every time and not a lot of AoE attacks, monk is inferior. I'm a die hard MONK since FF1, I love the job, but the one in XIV does not live to rep

I know a lot might say he is good for single boss fights (but even with that he keeps rebuilding GL3 from time to time when a boss does a special move), but that's about it =\

[cfStatic]

I'm very disappointed with monk's output power... Lets see why:

• Need to build GL3 at every fight so that's at least 12 seconds of no optimum damage
• Perfect balance has a 5 minutes cool down so don't use it as an excuse
• In a dungeon, moving from one location to another would probably make you lose GL3 (thus overall lower DPS)
• HP!, Monks always had pride with their enormous HP! I want my HP to be over NINE THOUSAAAAND
• Always need to be moving between back and flank (harder to do with some mobs like demon wall, etc...)
• We have to abide by our rotation in order to keep GL3 up
• Even if we do everything perfectly, other classes EASILY out damage us...

I did AK yesterday with my brothers, me being a monk, one of them being a summoner... I averaged around 360k damage (130 DPS) while he did around 420k damage (160 DPS) not to mention that his summons each did around 40 DPS extra!
I might have done slightly more damage to the final boss but still not satisfied.
I had avengers HQ equipped with some other darklight gear and lv55~60 items.

While I only did around (130) DPS in AK, I could easily strike 200+ DPS on striking dummy in dragonhead. I use FFXIV-APP parser (which is very cool btw). But in real situation such as dungeons where you have to rebuild GL3 every time and not a lot of AoE attacks, monk is inferior. I'm a die hard MONK since FF1, I love the job, but the one in XIV does not live to rep

I know a lot might say he is good for single boss fights (but even with that he keeps rebuilding GL3 from time to time when a boss does a special move), but that's about it =\

Perfect Balance is a 3 minute cooldown. 60 seconds in a minute, 180/60=3.

Also, FFXIV-APP is very iffy when it comes to DoT DPS. This could result in bad results(with a very large bias toward SMN depending on some of the things I've heard tossed around).

It sounds like you're experiencing a lot of disconnects and dropped stacks, to which I can only say you should reconsider your rotation if that's your issue.

[SedoSan]

Perfect Balance is a 3 minute cooldown. 60 seconds in a minute, 180/60=3.

Also, FFXIV-APP is very iffy when it comes to DoT DPS. This could result in bad results(with a very large bias toward SMN depending on some of the things I've heard tossed around).

It sounds like you're experiencing a lot of disconnects and dropped stacks, to which I can only say you should reconsider your rotation if that's your issue.

My rotation is perfect (never drop GL during constant fight), I don't have any disconnection, its just that moving to one location to another makes you
lose it (no mobs in the way to keep it on).

As for DPS, I tested it, it calculates DoT damage accurately.

however this isn't the point, the point is that monks even if played perfectly won't be as good as a bard or a smn, i didn't try parsing a drg or blm so i dunno.

so, hard to play -> low gains. I'd say it really needs tweaking balancing....