The Monk Temple

[Grimm08]

You guys have fun, I'm gonna leave now and refine my art elsewhere.

[Allyrion]

That number IS FOR MELEE DPS. I don't understand how the other millions of people know this information, yet a select few on this board argue is so vehemently.

I ran T5 with 465 acc and never missed. I lowered to 455 once and missed.
458 may in fact be the acc cap, but I never went that low.

You don't need to believe anyone here by just their word. Test it yourself.
The game is still young so a lot of numbers and "facts" are thrown around and refuted.

[enil]

That number IS FOR MELEE DPS. I don't understand how the other millions of people know this information, yet a select few on this board argue is so vehemently.

There hasn't been a single person in this thread that has agreed with you.
Maybe you should actually test it instead of blindly agreeding with what some random website says.

Goodbye.

[NoctisUmbra]

That number IS FOR MELEE DPS. I don't understand how the other millions of people know this information, yet a select few on this board argue is so vehemently.

Where did I suggest it wasn't? Not sure you even understand me when I tell you that you do not need 472 accuracy to hit 100% of the time from the flank and rear in turns 1-5. In fact you need only 458. Tested. Confirmed. Old news... at least for most of us apparently. Have fun "refining your art" though lol.

You know nothing, John Snow.

[Grimm08]

"+91 acc for casters and +131 for physical, 432 and 472 respectively. If you want to go overboard and get 10 or 11 more it doesn't matter, the one or two pieces of gear you swap won't be noticeable unless you are going down in item level. Coil is the only place you can miss in at 50, downvotes incoming.

Twintania itself is 432/472 acc, no one misguided or not will say otherwise, they are just claiming the snake adds need 10 or 11 more acc to not miss."



"I've only got a small sample for after my accuracy dropped to 467, but I did not miss a single attack on Twintania, while Hygieia and Asclepius reported 3.2 and 1.3% miss rates, respectively."


"I will just say that, as long as you're not dipping below 470 (can even go lower if you gain a LOT of good stats in stead, whether it be primary/critical/determination), you really have nothing to worry about."

"With 472 you have 100% hit rate on the snake from the side and back, from the front you need 483."

If the testing on this forum is relevant to the conversation, so are these bits of testing from other forums.

[NoctisUmbra]

Of course you have 100% hit rate on snakes from flank and rear with 472 accuracy since you already have 100% hit rate on them from the flank and rear with 458 lol. The front is 482/3, yes.

Like... this is old news. Goes back well over a month in both this thread and the DRG thread.

People are reporting misses on Asclepius and Hygieia because they miss when stacked for divebombs and are forced to do frontal hits, and then use that to suggest it isn't enough for flank and rear.

Nothing you've posted there from other sources contradicts the simple fact that 458 accuracy is enough to hit 100% of the time on Snakes in T5 from rear and flank. When stacking for first set of divebombs, have a BRD use Rain of Death and then the frontals will be fine as well. GG.

[ryuuken]

ultimately I think it's fine to let Grimm08 perform worse than every other monk/drg/anybody that knows relevant/current information. he wants to refine his art, and no where in that statement does it mean his 'art' is relevant, decent, or impressive. perfectly fine!

we can move on and discuss not sucking at t7 and t8 and beyond

also what are people picking up with their soldiery tomes next?

[enil]

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The actual testing there does not refute what we are saying.
The logged misses - Hygieia and Asclepius is because they are attacking from the front during divebomb phase or whatever reason.

There is no data there that conflicts that you have 100% from side/flank at 458 accuracy. This is not hard to test. Go down to 458, run some T1-5 and discount any misses that might be because you attacked from the front. If our words can't convince you, do it yourself.

[EasymodeX]

Accuracy is incorrect.
Priority's is the same thing as weightings - if you check the calculations by EasyModeX in this thread and other dps simulators Det is significantly higher weighted then Crit. Det should always be priority over other secondary stats (apart from accuracy).

Technically priority is not the same thing as the weight. It just happens for Monks and Dragoons that the weight for DTR is so high that it is also the first priority.

Priority and weights separate when we talk about gear stat allocations / item budget. For a given piece of a gear, it may have 20 DTR or 29 CRT. As a result, the gear slot will get DTR_priority = 20*DTR_weight versus CRT_priority = 29*CRT_weight.

For Monks and Dragoons, 20*dtr is still > 29*crt.

For Bards, the difference matters more because DTR has slightly higher per-point weight than CRT for them, except you get nearly 50% more crit on a given piece of gear, so crit is a higher priority.

[duceTRE]

Also what are people picking up with their soldiery tomes next?

Recently came back after taking a break, but I thought about grabbing the Gloam bracers or legs. I should have the Chest later this week.