The Monk Temple

[NoctisUmbra]

lol actually scratch that - not sure why I randomly remembered 60%. Did seem off on second thought.

It is, however, a significant contributor to total DPS and remains entirely unaffected by Skill Speed. Actually looking at some old parses instead of trying to rely on my shit memory, it does account for roughly a quarter of total DPS.

[Instrumentality]

lol actually scratch that - not sure why I randomly remembered 60%. Did seem off on second thought.

It is, however, a significant contributor to total DPS and remains entirely unaffected by Skill Speed.

30% is what our Monks get from auto attacks.

Well, 28-32% depending on weapon in use.

[NoctisUmbra]

30% is what our Monks get from auto attacks.

Yup, fixed. While the 60 was ridiculous and incorrect, the overall point of my post remains in regards to Skill Speed being a shit stat, at least in comparison to Det or Crit.

[Instrumentality]

Yup, fixed. While the 60 was ridiculous and incorrect, the overall point of my post remains in regards to Skill Speed being a shit stat, at least in comparison to Det or Crit.

I think our monks are str > acc to cap > crit >>> det/ss.

[NoctisUmbra]

I think our monks are str > acc to cap > crit >>> det/ss.

Many MNKS are, and I'll take that over Skill Speed stackers any day.

I more or less considered them both about equally desirable (from an itemization standoint, det is the clear winner point for point) but I've been leaning towards stacking more det period now, and have marked a distinct increase in my DPS as a result of it.

It isn't difficult to make sense of it anyway, when MNK already crits rather often with Internal Release and has an auto-crit skill like Bootshine.

[Instrumentality]

It isn't difficult to make sense of it anyway, when MNK already crits rather often with Internal Release and has an auto-crit skill like Bootshine.

Edit: Was wrong~

Also I don't think you can trade crit and determination on a 1:1 basis. It's more like a ~1.4 crit rating:1 det.

[NoctisUmbra]

Internal Release is a bonus to your critical hit rating. So any monk with stacked critical hit rating will gain much more value from Internal Release than a determination stacked monk.

Also I don't think you can trade crit and determination on a 1:1 basis. It's more like a ~1.4 crit rating:1 det.

Actually, it was determined that the crit bonuses from Internal Release, Straight Shot and Wrath are flat % additions.

Basically, Internal Release on MNK increases your crit chance by 30% (if you have a 15% chance to crit based on your crit rate value, you will have a 45% chance to crit under the effects of Internal Release on MNK).

Source: http://valk.dancing-mad.com/ (scroll down a bit on the home page)

Therefore, no. Any gains from Internal Release, or crit rate increasing buffs from skills, are entirely independent from the Crit Rate stat.