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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Determination is the best secondary stat until we hit i120 gear levels or so.
    I'd really love to know where you're getting this arbitrary item level and conviction from? Have you tried increasing your det varied amounts and then seeing the difference over 100+ hits opposed what you had before switching it around, while maintaining the same weapon and same attack potency? You will quickly see the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    I'd really love to know where you're getting this arbitrary item level and conviction from?
    The other thread that I made about damage.

    Have you tried increasing your det varied amounts and then seeing the difference over 100+ hits opposed what you had before switching it around, while maintaining the same weapon and same attack potency?
    A couple times.

    FWIW you don't need >100 hits unless you get bad luck.

    You will quickly see the difference.
    That's the idea ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    The other thread.



    A couple times.

    FWIW you don't need >100 hits unless you get bad luck.



    That's the idea ...
    Which thread's this? I'd love to see the math that tells me that 1% more critical hit chance is not better than gaining 3 more damage on every bootshine I do
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    FWIW you don't need >100 hits unless you get bad luck.
    What a surprise that the person who doesn't know how probability works doesn't know how statistics work.

    E: It was determined by pretty extensive testing that you can do yourself because I'm not here to spoonfeed you that the stat weights for monks (and melee classes in general) are Acc to cap > SS >= Crit >> Det >>> Acc beyond cap
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaneTW View Post
    What a surprise that the person who doesn't know how probability works doesn't know how statistics work.

    E: It was determined by pretty extensive testing that you can do yourself because I'm not here to spoonfeed you that the stat weights for monks (and melee classes in general) are Acc to cap > SS >= Crit >> Det >>> Acc beyond cap
    Oh dear... another Skill Speed enthusiast.

    Switch that around to STR > Acc to cap > Det > Crit >> SS, and then you'll be closer to making sense.

    Must be some amazing testing if it concluded that Skill Speed, a stat that has absolutely no effect on Auto Attacks (which account for ~60% of where MNK DPS comes from) is the best to stack.


    EDIT:

    Brain fart with the 60%. It is actually more like 25%, which is still significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Oh dear... another Skill Speed enthusiast.

    Switch that around to STR > Acc to cap > Det > Crit >> SS, and then you'll be closer to making sense.

    Must be some amazing testing if it concluded that Skill Speed, a stat that has absolutely no effect on Auto Attacks (which account for ~60% of where MNK DPS comes from) is the best to stack.
    Oh man, 60% of your dps?

    What do you do, ignore your weapon skills? That must be an amazing parse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Oh man, 60% of your dps?

    What do you do, ignore your weapon skills? That must be an amazing parse.
    and you must have never actually parsed (or at least used an accurate one with actual breakdowns)
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    Edit: Ok.

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