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    2 Quick ones, I just switched to MNK for my Coil team:

    - Hypothetically, in a vacuum, this should be the "standard" rotation (not including off-GCDs or Fracture (which I think is useless) and ToDeath), correct?

    BS>TwSn>Demo>DK>TrSt>SP

    - When is the right time to use Perfect Bal? I have been using it start fights to get GL3 quickly, basically

    PB>SP>SP>Demo>TwSn>ToD>BS . . .

    I have heard people saving it for if they drop GL3 somehow...I'm assuming that's a crutch for newer Monks? I don't lose GL3 much unless its like T1 and we called DPS off to account for a smile getting in before split.

    Thanks uber expert monks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    2 Quick ones, I just switched to MNK for my Coil team:

    - Hypothetically, in a vacuum, this should be the "standard" rotation (not including off-GCDs or Fracture (which I think is useless) and ToDeath), correct?

    BS>TwSn>Demo>DK>TrSt>SP

    - When is the right time to use Perfect Bal? I have been using it start fights to get GL3 quickly, basically

    PB>SP>SP>Demo>TwSn>ToD>BS . . .

    I have heard people saving it for if they drop GL3 somehow...I'm assuming that's a crutch for newer Monks? I don't lose GL3 much unless its like T1 and we called DPS off to account for a smile getting in before split.

    Thanks uber expert monks!
    The rotation depends on how you start the fight. If you start the fight with BS > TwS > Dem > DK > TrS > SP, you'll constantly rotate BS > TwS > ender > DK > TrS > ender. If you start with PB (as I use it anyway), you'll end up with flank > flank > ender > behind > behind > ender.

    I think the best time to use Perfect Balance is to avoid the ramp-up of Greased Lightning. The DPS increase from just spamming True Strike while already ramped up isn't as much a gain, I don't think. To ramp up I use:

    PB > SP > SP > DK > TwS > Demolish, which JUST works. This lets you have a fully buffed Demolish since you have four opportunities for non-GCDs, and ToD will also be fully buffed immediately after.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 01-08-2014 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post

    PB > SP > SP > DK > TwS > Demolish, which JUST works. This lets you have a fully buffed Demolish since you have four opportunities for non-GCDs, and ToD will also be fully buffed immediately after.
    How is that a fully buffed Demolish? Does the buff get the 3rd stack even if that demolish applied it? Or did I miss something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David1c View Post
    How is that a fully buffed Demolish? Does the buff get the 3rd stack even if that demolish applied it? Or did I miss something?
    Edit - I take back what I said. I retested and I guess I was just getting really lucky highs on my third GL apply and lows after that. It does not look like it applies after retesting it, but maybe someone with a larger pool of data has a better answer I just did some quick sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David1c View Post
    How is that a fully buffed Demolish? Does the buff get the 3rd stack even if that demolish applied it? Or did I miss something?
    Fully buffed was a bad choice of words. I meant fully non-GCD'd up Demolish, with B4B and IR. While it'd be nice to save Demolish for GL3, it'd be too much time until the next one and be a DPS loss over using it in GL2 I reckon.
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