Quote Originally Posted by Truedragon View Post
Is this based on supported facts?

I know subtle blow is not listed. But let us be real here. When is the last time you grabbed hate. I often look at the hate meter and the simple fact is, our hate meter hardly ever fills up. 3 shots from a bard and the mob is moving back and forth between tank and bard. You can zerg it for 10 minutes as a monk and the mob never turns your way.
Unless I'm missing something, the only thing the Subtle Blow trait did was reduce how much TP the enemy received from you hitting them and has nothing at all to do with threat. Since TP in this game is completely independent of hitting or being hit it's a safe bet that no, it isn't in ARR as a hidden trait.

As for pulling threat it's difficult to compare Monk and Bard like that. We're sustained DPS and Bards are much more about burst. A Bard blowing their CDs and frontloading a lot of damage at the start is a lot more likely to rip threat than a Monk doing the same, but I've pulled threat on a number of occasions from a lucky chain of crits.