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    Quote Originally Posted by hyachona View Post
    Why ppl throw that vid around like its the gospel ill never know. I see more dps as crit main stat and SS last
    People has just no idea, and keeps quoting others' "theorycrafting" thinking they got the optimal set-up, and it's actually funny when there's THREE strong groups of those at the moment:
    1. Go determination!
    2. Go critical chance!
    3. Go attack speed up to 491, then join 1) or 2)!
    If people took more time to think for five minutes and test 2 basic things, they wouldn't need to be spamming forums with wrong or misleading theories, "plz which is the cap for X for mnk", or waiting for others to do math.

    The best sect however is this never-ending group of flank-onry evangelists
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    Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!
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    Crits are 150% damage (or healing), yes.
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    Monks have a general crit rate of >20% due to IR. So yeah, cut that CRT value by 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Monks have a general crit rate of >20% due to IR. So yeah, cut that CRT value by 20%.
    That makes no sense at all.

    If you're gonna try to say Bootshine makes up 20% of your DPS, then you're just plain wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    That makes no sense at all.

    If you're gonna try to say Bootshine makes up 20% of your DPS, then you're just plain wrong.
    I think what EasymodeX was getting at is that it's just as absurd to negate the benefits of SS just because some of the OCD skills don't benefit from it as it is to suggest negating the benefits of Crit Hit Rate because of IR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    I think what EasymodeX was getting at is that it's just as absurd to negate the benefits of SS just because some of the OCD skills don't benefit from it as it is to suggest negating the benefits of Crit Hit Rate because of IR.
    Ah, well the off GCD abilities are not that important. The dots are something,but even that's not huge, right?
    The auto attacks though, that's pretty major.

    Are we sure SS doesn't affect auto-attacks? I know there's no mention in the SS tooltip, but it's not like the tooltips have been misleading before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    I think what EasymodeX was getting at is that it's just as absurd to negate the benefits of SS just because some of the OCD skills don't benefit from it as it is to suggest negating the benefits of Crit Hit Rate because of IR.
    That makes even less sense! A more accurate comparison would be to say Skillspeed is 15% weaker because of Greased Lightning. Or that Determination is 5% weaker from Fists of Fire, 21% weaker from Greased Lightning, and 10% weaker from Twin Snakes. That is a completely absurd argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    That makes even less sense! A more accurate comparison would be to say Skillspeed is 15% weaker because of Greased Lightning. Or that Determination is 5% weaker from Fists of Fire, 21% weaker from Greased Lightning, and 10% weaker from Twin Snakes. That is a completely absurd argument.
    I think the issue is that you threw a number out as cutting Skill Speed value by 50% without any actual data behind it. The posters such as EasymodeX and pandabearcat work with hard numbers, not random numbers thrown out just because. Which is why EasymodeX said "Monks have a general crit rate of >20% due to IR. So yeah, cut that CRT value by 20%. " because it IS absurd. Absurdity is absurdity, regardless of how absurd.
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    Nice write up Powercow. Now that we have skillspeed out of the way do we now know an official stat priority for monk?
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