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    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    just tryed Parse to see dps and dmg on a dummy and ITS BROKEN it reads dots but its full duration in 1 second. you ca nspamm dots over and over again and see your dmg goes sky high lol
    It's not broken, it works like that. If you read their releases you will see they have to simulate the DoTs in order to get damage, since they're untracked.

    Of course you can boost damage up IN THE PARSER by DoTing like madman, since the parser counts each appliance, however you would be cheating on yourself.

    If you use the parser with common sense it'll be good to get general damage ideas
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    Belvedere Lamare
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    Is mercy stroke useful for us? It would be the highest single burst hit available to monks/pugs.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_wazzabi View Post
    Is mercy stroke useful for us? It would be the highest single burst hit available to monks/pugs.
    It's free and has incredible potency so I'd say it's worth using whenever possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    It's free and has incredible potency so I'd say it's worth using whenever possible.
    it's really long CD and stringent restriction makes it meh ish though. It does work since the last 20% is usually the hardest part.

    I can't say for or againist it...for all the good it does, it's still a meh skill. Sometimes you do better with other skills instead.
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    any rotation with impulse drive? i kinda wanna replace true strike 5% crit chanse is not good at all
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    Soreya Bolde
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    I would like to a see a full rotation with fracture, touch of death and demolish ... with darklight gear.

    At the moment I use
    start: Perfect Balance, SP, SP, SP, DK, TS, ToD
    normal rotation: BS, True, Demolish, Fracture, BS, TS, SP, DK, TS, SP << repeat and refresh ToD if necessary

    But it seems this rotation is not good enough to have the dps for titan.
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    i dont use ToD, only on bosses that stands still. Demolish and Fracture at the same time and i refresh at same time if its gone. With full GL 3 and no boost buffs such as Blood for Blood or IR demolish and Frature ticks for about 90-100+ dmg besides that you crit for 350-500+ with normal attacks IR helps a alot, in that time i dont use Dots at all becouse you can perform something like snap wich crits for 500 dmg.

    I have 1 piece (pants lvl 60) wich i dont wanna replace with DL becouse i will lose 24 crit but gain 4 str and about 150 more HP and also defense. My legs are lvl 90 wich gives me crit and speed, rest is full DL set. Weapon is Relic.

    Maybe i´m wrong about not using dots while blood for blood or IR but i feel like dots are not your main sorce of your DPS its just a boost for long fights its ticks 1 time in 3 seconds but your AA with 3 GL performs every second. So i think Monk needs crit gear wich now is not realy an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    Maybe i´m wrong about not using dots while blood for blood or IR but i feel like dots are not your main sorce of your DPS its just a boost for long fights its ticks 1 time in 3 seconds but your AA with 3 GL performs every second. So i think Monk needs crit gear wich now is not realy an option.
    DoTs are your highest potency attack that benefit from those cooldowns after they are gone, you certainly want to use them while the buffs are active.
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    So you use Demolish and Fracture together (same like me) but only if you have no Blood for Blood or IR active. Actually I use Blood for Blood togehther with Demolish and IR together with Fracture (macro).

    Is there a basic rotation u are using? Do u refresh Demolish and Fracture instantly after they disappeared or do u refresh the dots at the end of your basic rotation?

    I hate it not having an "perfect rotation" or spreadsheet like in the other mmo I played a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolde View Post
    So you use Demolish and Fracture together (same like me) but only if you have no Blood for Blood or IR active. Actually I use Blood for Blood togehther with Demolish and IR together with Fracture (macro).

    Is there a basic rotation u are using? Do u refresh Demolish and Fracture instantly after they disappeared or do u refresh the dots at the end of your basic rotation?

    I hate it not having an "perfect rotation" or spreadsheet like in the other mmo I played a few years.
    On trash mobs you can probably keep dots in optimal alignment(though it doesn't really matter then), but unless you have great OCD syndrome, I doubt boss fights will be as easy, considering the way dots are show in the UI.

    Trying to focus on when your dot expiration with 15 other symbols on the boss, while running around dodging, and other mechanics, is a fruitless effort. Sure your own personal dots are green, but if you gotta time to focus on that, you probably aren't focusing on many many more important things.

    Almost all mnks just "wing it" when things come down to that. At the last phase of a boss fight, there just isn't enough idle time to be going "my demolish is expiring in 5 seconds"

    A perfect rotation only belongs on a training dummy. Reality is, just experience and a slow ramp up of optimization.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 09-23-2013 at 04:48 AM.

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