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  1. #1841
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    Gaderian Blackheart
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    Optimal rotation and DPS expectations

    Hi!
    I just got my allagan baghnaks, and have adjusted my gear so i have enough acc for turn 5 with it (ilvl90 now, just missing my allagan hands).
    I've been doing a skill rotaion which always tries to keep the dots, buffs and debuffs up.
    Even so, i am outdamaged on fights like titan extreme and Garuda extreme (or sometimes even twintania) typically by DRGs, by a fair amount of DPS. My rotation:

    Perfect balance -> Snap punch until PB wears off + buffs in between -> dots -> One flank combo -> back combo -> flank combo

    Is this no good? it's been working good for me until the others in the group was well geared and started outdamaging me by alot. I've also read that it's optimal to start with dot's, then use back combo before flank combo. Is this correct?

    My stats (non-party bonus):
    Str 488
    Acc 463
    Crit 517
    Det 229
    Skill Speed: 453

    On dummies i typically get around 310-315 DPS without food, party bonus or potions.
    Thanks for any feedback in advance!
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  2. #1842
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    Philia Felice
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    On a training dummy you should be in the 380 range with your gear by the time you go TP dry.

    That being said, in my experience, DRG will out-DPS a MNK in a typical Titan EM run unless you keep GL3 up virtually the entire fight, which is often out of your hands due to RNG or your group's timing.
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  3. #1843
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    I've tried a few runs (10) on dummies, and every time i range from 304 - 329. I cannot imagine how i can get higher without pt bonus or food+potions. Am i missing something here? Or is my gear very wrong? My gear (non-twinnie):
    Allagan baghnahks
    Melee cyclas
    Fuma tekko
    Allagan belt of striking
    Allagan trousers
    Melee boots
    Heroes necklace of striking
    allagan striking earrings
    Allagan striking bracelets
    Vortex ring of striking
    Heroes ring of striking

    I've tried to go for a crit/det build and don't have all the pieces i want yet.
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    Last edited by Gaderian; 03-16-2014 at 08:45 AM.

  4. #1844
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    ...so it seems i failed to notice the direction the Dummies were facing, so my DPS is more correctly around 355!
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    Lol yeeeessss I wasn't the only one. Made that mistake a while back
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  6. #1846
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    Yea was a bit surprised myself, to have that low dps compared to other monks... So it seems it wasn't THAT low at least :P
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    Kay Dewitt
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Now I'm interested lol... Which directions is the right one? I'm parsing on the one in Coerthas. The back is facing the wall, right?
    Have everything i90, missing i95 weaps (twin stop drop tank weapons!) and parse around 340~350... DET Build
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  8. #1848
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    Noctis Umbra
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    With all i90, without Allagan Baghnakhs, a proper dummy parse without any time spent TP starved shouldn't get lower than 360. Like ever.

    If it is, time to look into your rotation for any errors you may be making... or perhaps if you're using Fracture without knowing how to actually use it :P
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  9. #1849
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    Well, it is possible. (That's what this topic is for! )

    I will look for past rotations posted here. Meanwhile I hope Twin wil llet me see my weap tomorrow~
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    Good luck! I know the feel. The day it finally dropped for me, the feeling was something else
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