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    during the opening phase of t5, i've been using my first three rotations to spread a demolish onto each of the ads while i build up my GL stacks. my rationale is: why use a 180 potency attack on one target when i can use a 310 potency dot on another (so long as i'm not clipping them). i.e. BS-TW-Dm > DK-TW (switch to mk2) Dm (switch back to mk1) > BS-TS (switch to mk3) Dm (switch back to mk1).

    is this the most efficient way to make use of my combo finishers? single targeting one the whole time seem like such a waste
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomieData View Post
    during the opening phase of t5, i've been using my first three rotations to spread a demolish onto each of the ads while i build up my GL stacks. my rationale is: why use a 180 potency attack on one target when i can use a 310 potency dot on another (so long as i'm not clipping them). i.e. BS-TW-Dm > DK-TW (switch to mk2) Dm (switch back to mk1) > BS-TS (switch to mk3) Dm (switch back to mk1).

    is this the most efficient way to make use of my combo finishers? single targeting one the whole time seem like such a waste
    I wouldn't really worry about the first phase at all. It's kind of just filler.
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    @TheHomieData

    It really depends in how the scourges are positioned. Sure, multi dotting in general is a nice way to increase dps, but you also have to consider any possible down time while switching targets as well as auto attacks that won't go off.

    Furthermore, the scourges themselves aren't really annoying and don't take too long to kill, but killing them one at a time faster than as a group means less liquid hells, which can get annoying.

    Ultimately, it doesn't really make much of a difference you'll find.
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    And then there's groups that wipe at 1% from Twin's enrage.

    Necessary DPS is necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    And then there's groups that wipe at 1% from Twin's enrage.

    Necessary DPS is necessary.
    What I mean to suggest is if the positioning of the Scourges aren't positioned nicely and clumped up, then it's questionable whether there is actually a dps increase. Couple with bad Liquid Hell RNG, it can often times be more DPS to just stick to one at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    @TheHomieData

    It really depends in how the scourges are positioned. Sure, multi dotting in general is a nice way to increase dps, but you also have to consider any possible down time while switching targets as well as auto attacks that won't go off.

    Furthermore, the scourges themselves aren't really annoying and don't take too long to kill, but killing them one at a time faster than as a group means less liquid hells, which can get annoying..
    thank you!

    okay, so i'm not just going crazy. for the longest time i thought i was wasting DPS efficiency by not spreading dots around.

    would spreading dots be a viable way to take down t4, as well?
    edit - i feel like i should clarify this:
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    phase 2 - because the soldier is right by me (for both tanks)
    phase 4 - spreading it on the rooks or maybe just the whole mob until i can tell they won't last longer than 6 ticks
    phase 5/6 - just because i'm almost never attacking an isolated target (save for maybe when my group tells me to go and burn one of the dreads)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomieData View Post
    thank you!

    okay, so i'm not just going crazy. for the longest time i thought i was wasting DPS efficiency by not spreading dots around.

    would spreading dots be a viable way to take down t4, as well?
    Where applicable, yeah. Personally I don't find myself multi-dotting often or at all in T4 as I typically roll in there with 2 BLMs. It's only effectively an increase if the DoT ticks down most of the way on the targets, but 2 BLMs using an optimal Flare rotation pretty much tosses that out the window for any pack of bugs lol.

    If I multi-dot in T4, it's on the first wave of knights/soldiers. Ultimately it depends on the group strategy. If things don't die too fast, and it's not particularly important for things to die one by one to reduce the load on the tank, then by all means Demolish everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishaela View Post
    25+ T1 clears (21 on main, around 5 or so more on an alt) and still have never seen monk pants, ever. At this point they are approaching Unicorn status for my group, along with tank boots.
    I've done a ton of T1-T4 clears also, never seen the Monk pants. While they aren't BiS as the Melee pants have DET, I'd still like them for when the vanity stuff comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    I've done a ton of T1-T4 clears also, never seen the Monk pants. While they aren't BiS as the Melee pants have DET, I'd still like them for when the vanity stuff comes out.
    The MNK pants happen to be my first ever Allagan drop from my first ever run into Coil. I've been regularly clearing coil ever since, consistently and every week. I haven't seen those pants drop a second time lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    The MNK pants happen to be my first ever Allagan drop from my first ever run into Coil. I've been regularly clearing coil ever since, consistently and every week. I haven't seen those pants drop a second time lol.
    Hahah, I have the exact same experience.
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