Fixing Legacy Characters Story

[Raithen]

We watched the Battle of Carteneau from afar. We couldn't take down the transmitter. How could we possibly be of any help in this fight? We did what we thought was best. We fled. We hid from the world, ashamed of our act of cowardice. We abandoned all those who depended on us.
After five long years, we return, hoping to right the wrongs of our past. Perhaps, the people of Eorzea will have forgotten and forgiven our great misdeed...

I actually completely agree with this explanation for my character as Raithen was dramatically opposed to the Grand Companies and fighting against the Garlean Empire. Instead of fighting in the battle he was definitely off chopping trees and harvesting foodstuffs for the advancement of peace throughout the realm. What a hippie.

Still, I do not like the fact that players from 1.0 were completely ignored because of a Grand Company story quest at the very end of the game.

[Alteiriaa]

guh. Glad that we finally got a answer but me and my boyfriend are pretty disappoint. I don't think Riaa'd have run away from the final fight or anything either, which is the crappiest thing, I so wanted to finish the GC stuff but never really got into a shell until nearer the end and went leveling to 50. I guess though it's in Riaa's nature to be deep in the seemingly biggest glaring pothole from 1.0 now. ^^;;;

Really wish it had been mentioned before now, though, it bugs me a whole since it makes the tattoo useless. I'll get over it and play the game still, don't get me wrong, but boo.

[Tiraelina]

That's actually really lame because the regular story implies you are just some random nobody that's never been Eorzea before. Which anyone that even did the original storyline was definately not

[KimimiAvesta]

General annoyances/issues with this -

1) I haven't found anything that officially stated there was any requirement to "earn" this new intro/story change other than being a legacy character (whether that's just 1.0 or "Legacy" I have no idea).
2) If the dev team knew, why didn't they tell us? Why be so specific about other one time only items/events/achievements but not this?
3) Why were people allowed to repeatedly list it as a bug in the beta forums? If the requirement was simply "must have passed <X> to be eligible" why wasn't it mentioned then and the topics closed as "not a bug"?
4) Why am I and others considered Legacy enough to have our names listed in the credits as a Meteor Survivor but not to get the altered intro/text? How can I be one but not the other?

Obviously it's not game breaking but I feel we've been dealt an unfair hand here - requirements were either never shared with players or were altered without letting us know, and then we're only told that it's all "working as intended" months after we could have done something about it.

[KuroNoKaze]

As I see it, it was done this way by SE to do something special for 1.0 players. Sadly, without too much thought.

My suggestion how they should have done it:
Instead of relying on only 1 endgame quest to toggle the entire change in storyline, they should have used 3 such toggles for a staggered aproach.

1. Every 1.0 Char that is not a WoL is recognized by the NPCs you met during the start of the 1.0 storyline. (For Gridania, that would have been Mother Miounne, Yda, Papalymo, Honoraint etc.)
2. If you met Minfilia in 1.0, she remembers you as well.
3. If you completed the entire storyline, you unlock the whole WoL treatment.

Not perfect, but far better than what we have now. As to where we were... that is something that is not easily explained in a way that makes sense, since a reason that works for one character rarely works for all. (Not all see their chars as cowards who would run away, for example.)

All in all, a tough spot. And one that could have been avoided. But alright, the bill's passed, so no point in mourning over spoilt milk.
I'll be honest though and say my enjoyment of the game dropped somewhat. (Yes, story is important to me. It is Final Fantasy after all.)

[BobbinT]

Without making too much spoilers:

White Raven battle in 1.0 will also affect story segment on Garuda chapter in ARR. Another thing I just found out recently.

[Lanceton]

well, my character did take part in the Battle of Carteneau .... I guess he was just left there to die but somehow survived the battle field, and lost his memory.

I doubt squareenix will do anything to 'correct' this issue, just have to live with it.
they no longer need to worry about a 'failure' anymore given the game's apparent popularity, and we as its players will get less and less courtesies, just be prepared.

[Themis]

I played through the 1.0 main story though. It ended fighting a magitek flying thing in Mor Dhona, followed by a totally sweet final cut scene fighting along side the scions. A forgettable bystander? Please.

Then I finished every side quest in the game. Then they added grand companies, communicating that they were intended to be something extra, parallel to the main story -- not an extension of it -- simply to keep us busy until 2.0 and test out some of their primal mechanics ahead of the re-release.

The way I saw it was that the original 1.0 storyline (which ended in that fight in Mor Dhona) was only a story line. It was also created without any real notion of the fall of Dalamud or had any part in Van Darnus' plans. You could tell as the GC storyline got underway, though, that it was becoming the main storyline - the fight for the future of Eorzea. I never once thought of it as an extension.

well, my character did take part in the Battle of Carteneau .... I guess he was just left there to die but somehow survived the battle field, and lost his memory.

I doubt squareenix will do anything to 'correct' this issue, just have to live with it.
they no longer need to worry about a 'failure' anymore given the game's apparent popularity, and we as its players will get less and less courtesies, just be prepared.

Going from the cutscene alone, technically we never saw any of our characters taking part in the battle. It's implied, though, assuming that you completed "United We Stand", that you were on the forefront of the battle which is where you would need to have been to be included in the whole being teleported/time thing. If you didn't get that far in the story, maybe in the battle you were just too far away from the spell (or whatever it was) to have been included.

I can see the disappointment due to the lack of specific information regarding the eligibility of the difference in the 2.0 cutscenes. It was obviously implied (in some people's minds) that any 1.0 character would get it, but if you didn't actually have any huge impact in the story (i.e. being part of the elite team to take down the Lunar Transmitter, or being the ones to go against Van Darnus) then you can't really expect it to make sense in lore that you suddenly became one of the "Warriors of the Light". It was something I was concerned with back when the whole thing was announced, and after thinking about this (what has actually happened regarding this whole issue) it makes sense. When it comes to it, anyone who did miss out on this just weren't somebody that important, in the eyes of the lore.

[KuroNoKaze]

I can see the disappointment due to the lack of specific information regarding the eligibility of the difference in the 2.0 cutscenes. It was obviously implied (in some people's minds) that any 1.0 character would get it, but if you didn't actually have any huge impact in the story (i.e. being part of the elite team to take down the Lunar Transmitter, or being the ones to go against Van Darnus) then you can't really expect it to make sense in lore that you suddenly became one of the "Warriors of the Light". It was something I was concerned with back when the whole thing was announced, and after thinking about this (what has actually happened regarding this whole issue) it makes sense. When it comes to it, anyone who did miss out on this just weren't somebody that important, in the eyes of the lore.

True. But it also doesn't make any sense to throw returning 1.0 players into the game and treating them like bloody newbies who have never been to Eorzea before.
Mutliple level 50s, ORiginal Storyline completed, Ifrit, Garuda, Moogle King down etc. and you want me to believe not a single person remembers such a character? o_O?

Not to mention starting in Gridania, just like in 1.0, Mother Miounne makes me signthe guild register - again. Why doesn't my char speak up and say "Hey, I already registered 5 years ago." ? Why do Yda and Papalymo not recognize the guy who was there when they crashed with their airship and were chased by a treant?

I can understand when late/endgame NPCs do not recognize such characters, but the ones you had no choice but to meet the moment you stepped into 1.0? By now, I'm hard-pressed to believe SE gave this whole WoL/Legacy thing more than a quick glance. The flaws are too obvious.

What you wrote is true enough, but that does not absolve SE from having to explain a bit more.... a whole lot a bit more.

[WednesdayEve]

Correct, the Grand Company quest called "United We Stand."

I'm 100% sure I completed that quest. You needed it complete to fight "To kill a Raven" and Raven(hard) and I know i have my vanity earrings' White Ravens.

So I'm sure that's not the problem here.