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    Valadriel's Avatar
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    Valadriel Caladbolg
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 20
    Testubg 1 2 3
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    Feel the wrath of Ytar!

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    Seraph Rook
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 17
    This is probably weird but I knew as soon as I saw bloodletter for archer that was the class I wanted to start as and when I first saw bard I was like meh... musician... then I saw that the bard wasn't holding a harp but a big angry bow with a harp on it and I thinks to myself "... well that's interesting" then I find out that it's archer conj that makes a bard so I started toolin around with conj which was suprisingly more fun than I remember from FFXI and now I'm thinkin to myself... bard's the way to go


    Let my soothing melody relax your every ache while I take aim.
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    Kale Angaros
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Unhappy spoony RNG with harp here ...
    I loved my 1.23 bard and the run here to buff the mages, run there to buff the tank, make team run faster, raise whm 1 during fight, cure tank so whm 2 can can be raised ... It was challenging and fun. Now, I don't know when to sing my songs. Foe's Requiem lures all the mobs towards you. I can't see the TP of my party members so I can't judge when to sing Paeon. Everybody has Sprint which overrides Swiftsong. The only thing I've actually been able to enjoy singing in Beta is Mage's Ballad.

    But I know, a lot of people want a physical ranged DD. And the role of "Support" has been negated. So I guess I'll just have to get use to my RNG with a harp.

    I wish there were more songs. I wish there was a way to "Play" your instrument like in LOTRO - just to be a bit more bard like even if it's not really anything useful in game. Travel from tavern to tavern playing things like Suteki Da Ne or November Rain just for fun.
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    Kale Angaros - Comradery LS - Excalibur

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    Zeta Xio'uma
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    Malboro
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    Archer Lv 50
    New BRD Here
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    Ketayl Travere
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 41
    New bard checking in.
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    Jocelyn Cordamora
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 25
    Initially, I was with the changes from CNJ to PUG as the sub but as I was thinking about it, there are a lot of bonuses. PUG got huge boosts to healing abilities and mantra is essentially an instant song that gives the entire party a 10% healing buff. With WHM now able to do 1k heals, that's an extra 100hp PER PERSON that our buff is adding = pretty sexy.

    With sch and whm they wanted to give brd a different flavor and I think I'm going to be ok with having less strain on my MP. Yes, mana for songs, but I won't be burning it to use with other skills now. That's nice.

    A guy in the 1.0 forums did a lot of tests for bard in bphase 3 and the stats were PIE as the biggest mod up to 250 and then dex while attk power always seemed to trump dex. With the changes to PUG I still foresee PIE being #1 and then dex.

    Question for those who've played brd. Sleep is affected by magic accuracy = mind. Does bind use MA for success rate as well or does it use PIE for the enfeebling score?
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    Victoria Mccry
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    Jenova
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Isten View Post

    A guy in the 1.0 forums did a lot of tests for bard in bphase 3 and the stats were PIE as the biggest mod up to 250 and then dex while attk power always seemed to trump dex. With the changes to PUG I still foresee PIE being #1 and then dex.
    Interesting I was still thinking Dex for 1 then PIE.
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    Seneca Revaille
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Isten View Post
    A guy in the 1.0 forums did a lot of tests for bard in bphase 3 and the stats were PIE as the biggest mod up to 250 and then dex while attk power always seemed to trump dex. With the changes to PUG I still foresee PIE being #1 and then dex.
    Care to link to this? All attribute points were re-worked for 2.0 and I find it hard to believe PIE is still present as damage modifier on BRD, especially since it's a stat that's not present on any DD gear, let alone BRDs.
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    Jocelyn Cordamora
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyree View Post
    Care to link to this? All attribute points were re-worked for 2.0 and I find it hard to believe PIE is still present as damage modifier on BRD, especially since it's a stat that's not present on any DD gear, let alone BRDs.

    Here's the link. I honestly don't know when 2.0 kicked in - whether it was after or before this guys testing.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/35795-STR-DEX-PIE-ATK-Testing


    I noticed you've gotten to 50 with Brd. Kyree. What's your experience with the stat modifiers.
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    Last edited by Isten; 08-24-2013 at 06:39 AM.

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    Heavens Descendant
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 26
    DEX increases ranged damage and PIE increases MP. Both are valuable for Bard depending on if you are focusing on DPS or Support.
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