Solution to Legacy Players Transferring to Non-Legacy Servers

[Kaliska]

I'm a legacy player and I thought long and hard about starting over, rerolling a fresh character on a fresh server and very nearly did. However, I don't want to go through all the "new server drama" again. People seem to somehow think that legacy players are all cheating, botting scumbags who want to spoil everyone else's enjoyment, but that's simply not true. I truly believe that on every server there will be the few powergamers who will race to 50 on their crafting/gathering jobs and craft and gather and corner the markets...it won't be the legacy people, it will be new people. They will hoard and craft and make millions off everyone else as they level up slower, just like they did at the start of 1.0. I went through that once and don't want to go through it again.

New servers aren't going to all sunshine and rainbows like people seem to believe, just like legacy servers aren't all hellfire and brimstone. I am disappointed that the community has been split like this and it truly saddens me to see all the hate and prejudice. SE should never have "labeled" the servers in the first place (beyond EU/NA/JP labels) and just offered transfers for old players to a server of their choice and new players to start anywhere.

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That happened in 1.0 it will not happen as severely in ARR. How fast you level in ARR will just prevent it from happening in any kind of degree that it happened in 1.0. I know about 1.0 I did it with cotton/velveteen cloth. Long before any weaver was high enough to make it I farmed bogies in a cave no one knew about for days on end selling those cloth for ungodly prices. And a lot of that was because crafts were so out of wack and like a weaponsmith needed that cloth at like level 10 to make his weapon(could not just get them off the vendor or class quest like now) and the cotton cloth was like a level 20 item to make for weaving. In ARR 1-20 in a craft is like 1 hour if you have the mats available and even faster if you use leves.

After open beta I really don't see the point to splitting us all up in the first place. I wasn't able to level one class from 1 to 20 in open beta, while other people managed to level 5 or 6 classes to 20. I'm on a Legacy server and there are people on new servers that are arguably much more leveled than me. There will be people hitting 50 on every server within a week. There will be people with outright dumb amounts of gil on new servers in a month. Treating people who played the original game like lepers isn't going to save you from being on a server with people with more levels and gil than you.

That is exactly a good reason for not allowing them on our servers. And you don't even know how bad it really is I have 9 classes to 20 and I was offline due to 3102 for a day and a half I am sure there are people with more like 15 classes to 20(my brother is one of them). That way you are rewarded for your dedication to leveling either with the economy by getting crap no one else can yet. Or just for the accomplishment of getting there first. By adding 1.0 characters you totally remove that factor from the game for some people. Yeah these players are a minority but you are suggesting taking this from them while a 1.0 player gains nothing from joining a new server except the fact he gets to have this feeling of being more progressed then everyone else without actually earning it.

[Kaliska]

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It will probably happen faster in 2.0, more so because it is so much faster to level up now. People played none stop at 1.0 launch and leveled through the old awful "fatigue" and still got to max in what...a week? People will be there in days now. They'll do it like they always do, working in groups, one crafting the others bringing in mats and gil. The threat to new servers economy isn't legacy people, its the new people themselves.

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Hehe you wont meet many people that level faster then I do and I did not hit 50 on conjurer till 1/1/2011 which is a little over 2 months so no you will not find a single person that leveled to 50 in a week. And to get there that fast you hit the max fatigue level just about every week. And yeah I expect people to hit 50 on their first class(if they ignore subs and crafting for the most part) in more like 24 hours. Which is why even though some players will make a bit of money they will not be able to do it for long. But for some people that is part of the fun of a new server and exactly what 1.0 characters getting xfered to their servers would ruin.

Btw I notice you hit 50 about a month after I did which tells me you are pretty fast at leveling too so you should see why this advantage on a new server is a positive experience for some players. I would expect that when you hit 50 there was probably maybe 20-30 people on your server that were also 50 and it felt good to be up there with the select few well new players want that same chance.

[Roaman]

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you may not all be cheaters but too many of y'all are and also if someone on a new server races to 50 to get his or her stuff in the market first at outrageous prices so be it because that fits in with the fresh experience of a new server. Ive seen legacy threads on beta forums advertising to new players that there will be established markets , established fc , ls etc on legacy servers and to me that all sounds like handouts, why do that when you can start on a new server that doesn't have anything established at day 1 and help build and establish those things like the economy on a new server?

[Garet]

you may not all be cheaters but too many of y'all are .... Ive seen legacy threads on beta forums advertising to new players that there will be established markets , established fc , ls etc on legacy servers and to me that all sounds like handouts, why do that when you can start on a new server that doesn't have anything established at day 1 and help build and establish those things like the economy on a new server?

No one is forcing you to join established FCs you can create your own and build it at your own pace. the markets will be the markets whether there are legacy players in it or not. It will all boil down to supply and demand. too much supply will results in low price and low margin which will discourage ppl at first to sell, farm etc. but then it will balance out and there might be instances of too much demand over supply etc etc.