Inventory Interface, Management, and Additional View Options

[Aiph]

In FFXI we could save our macros and settings to the server. I would realy like this option as I play FFXIV on 3 different computers. Having to redo macros for the same characters on each comp is annoying. Any way to just save the macro-hotbar-character equipment lists? If not, what is the file that saves it locally on each computer?

[ZhangoSqu]

In FFXI we could save our macros and settings to the server. I would realy like this option as I play FFXIV on 3 different computers. Having to redo macros for the same characters on each comp is annoying. Any way to just save the macro-hotbar-character equipment lists? If not, what is the file that saves it locally on each computer?

As this thread is mainly intended toward inventory-related feature requests, revisions, etc. I'm not sure how your request applies. It is a good suggestion, but I'm worried that it is a bit off topic to this thread and may get lost in the rest of the posts here. You may be better off finding a similar thread, regarding the hotbar or macros and re-post there!

Edit: Nevermind. Apparently I'm still asleep. I read it like five times and on the sixth I finally saw reference to the equipment lists. You can ignore me now. XD

[Klishren]

I do not see any reason that we should not have an infinite inventory with a list view just like every offline FF ever made. It makes no sense to say that I can carry 30 sets of armor, but I cannot carry anymore. What's wrong? My character's invisible caravan said no more? If we want realistic inventory management, then allow the characters to have what they can equip, a small bag of items, and perhaps one extra weapon. Don't like that idea? Neither do I. So give us an infinite system that has a different tab for each kind of item/armor.

For all of you that say you don't need this... Keep selling all your items and don't use it.

I am happy to hear that they are adding an inventory sort function at the least though. I would have thought that would have been fixed before the end of the first Beta.

[Camate]

Greetings, everyone!

Hiroshi Minagawa has another very informative post about the reasoning behind using icons for inventory items as opposed to text, as there has been some feedback stating that it's difficult to tell what's what by only looking at icons and would like to see it styled more like shops with text.

Item Name Display Modes

Why is it that the items in your inventory are only displayed as an icon?

There are two main reasons why we've made it so items in your inventory are displayed as an icon.

• We want to maximize the display without taking up too much of the screen.
• For ARR, displaying an icon uses way less memory than displaying a name.

Due to these reasons, we've adopted an icon display method for certain item display windows. We have a text-based method on our task list, but the timing for this is currently undecided.

For those of you who can't agree with this decision based only on this short explanation, please read the below in-depth explanation!

There are a lot of times where you'll have your inventory, or armoury chest, windows open along with shop windows as well as your character, trade, and other windows.

When running the game at the minimal resolution of 1280x720, even if we were to change the item icons to text and make it as small as possible, the text lines would still take up a large column width.

With a small icon on the left, the text of the item name, and additional information such as number of items in the stack, the window width would have to be 1.5x larger than the current inventory window.

In the case of the gear set confirmation window, looking at the Japanese version, there appears to be some room that can be eliminated from the right-side, but the reason for this is because the item names for French and German are extremely long.

*By the way, the longest item name in the game is over 60 characters long.

While there were comments mentioning that if the item name is too long, we can have an ellipsis to truncate it, but for other languages the end of a word often shows the grade or special characteristic and if we truncated it this would result in it looking like a list of the same item names.

Additionally, the larger issue at hand is the latter one involving memory. When it comes to UI, the bitmap images are used for both icons and text that are loaded by memory, but the number of elements to display a single item are far less when using an icon than using a string of text.

Unlike a typical offline RPG, it's necessary to have the proper structure to allow for multiple windows to be displayed at any given time or place in an MMO. If memory management and image asset management isn't set tighter than an offline RPG, it will become laggy and not function properly.

The amount of resources that can be utilized for game designs where they can avoid menus during battle screens and such is very different.

*For those of you who are interested, please try an press the b, c, p, j, m, i, u, y, h, and k keys in succession on the PC version to open up multiple windows. There will gradually be stress placed on the system, but there almost no RPGs that exist that are designed to allow you to play the game with windows displayed like this. Being able to do this – for example, when fighting a primal – is a special characteristic of an MMO.

Taking a holistic approach to the circumstances and limitations here, we made the decision that it would be best to display items in inventory and Armoury Chest with icons. With that said though, while it will be difficult to do for the PS3 version, it is possible to have a separate option for text display in the PC version.

If only 10 icons are displayed with text, then we could separate the tabs into categories and it just might be possible to do this for the PS3 as well.

Currently, we are in the midst of stress testing the final large component of the UI that is constantly displayed on the screen – the alliance display. Once we've finalized this we can start taking a look at display variations and customization for existing features, but until then I apologize for any inconveniences and appreciate your understanding.

[Raydeus]

Greetings, everyone!

Hiroshi Minagawa has another very informative post about the reasoning behind using icons for inventory items as opposed to text, as there has been some feedback stating that it's difficult to tell what's what by only looking at icons and would like to see it styled more like shops with text.

So, why not just keep the icon based inventory for PS3 and give the other additional options to PS4 and PC which have no memory issues?

[Laraul]

The PS3 version is capable of displaying inventory lists. Take a look at all the times lists are used...





The issue is the amount of available screen real estate that is available. The resolution of the game is 1280x720. Try running the PC version at 1280x720 and you'll find the UI cramped.

The problem is the "Window Style" UI. It's become archaic. Today you see more flat oriented UIs, with maybe at most two layers. Look at a sophisticated application like Final Cut Pro or the gaming service Steam. Do they use multi-layered Windowed interface? No.

I've brought up this in the past, and in the past I was always rebutted with "MMOs are DIFFERENT" and these "windowed" style interfaces are absolutely necessary. The only thing that's necessary is that the interface be easy to use and access. Finding what you need should be quick and easy. A good UI is one the user doesn't need to tamper with. And that's true regardless.

[Iggywiggy]

7. Make the retainer's inventory accessible during crafting


Yes yes yes yes yes YES YES YES
Or just make it when you are crafting, the craft menu takes into account items in your Retainer.

I hate it when looking at a craft receipe that says I have none of XXX material, rushing off somewhere to buy, then realising I have one on my retainer...running to the bell, summon retainer, running back to tradecraft supplier etc etc. Well, something like that.

[Mhalak]

Sorry if this has already been suggested, but can we please simplify NQ/HQ items? I like the existence of HQ ingredients, but every time I have to decide... do I keep the NQ ingredients, the HQ ingredients, both, neither? It's much more frustrating than fun or challenging.

My suggestion is that NQ and HQ items occupy one slot. The bottom left-hand number indicates how many NQ items you have, and the bottom right-hand number how many HQ items. One slot can hold up to 99 of both. Or combined with the idea of a list-view for inventory, this idea becomes even simpler to implement.

This would simplify much of the inventory system: don't have NQ on one page and HQ on another anymore. Can hold much more item types without having to expand inventory. Can transfer NQ and HQ both at same time between retainer and self, etc.

[J-Sharpie]

How about something like this For PC. Aside from this whole PS3 limitation thing cause we're on PC. (my mediocre photoshop skills)

[Akubikumo]

Search-by-icon is a HUGE headache. List view with sortable text columns is the best way to find things, this current system makes absolutely no sense to me and I waste twice as much time just trying to find things, not mention having to manually re-sort every other day. How in the world did they ever come up with this current system its such a mess!