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    Player
    Cori's Avatar
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    Ryvenas Thorp
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by mountaindew View Post
    Yes, we are a DoT based class and our damage deals overtime, even so; in boss fights where the DoTs run their full duration on the boss for maximum damage we are still lacking the DPS compared to the other classes.

    They need to increase the DoT damage and increase the Pet damage much more for this class to be anywhere near useful compared to other classes.
    After having a few runs of sunken temple and cutters cry I got to the same conclusion. Our damage output is just too low in some scenarios. Take cutters cry for example, when the princess summons her minions all I could do is pop miasma, bio i+ii on princess then bane to spread the love on adds. Still, with the guard and marshal plus additional minions our party could not keep up even though we had PLD, DRG and WHM
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    Alenghil's Avatar
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    Alenghil Strife
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cori View Post
    After having a few runs of sunken temple and cutters cry I got to the same conclusion. Our damage output is just too low in some scenarios. Take cutters cry for example, when the princess summons her minions all I could do is pop miasma, bio i+ii on princess then bane to spread the love on adds. Still, with the guard and marshal plus additional minions our party could not keep up even though we had PLD, DRG and WHM
    I have done those dungeons without any problem even with 2 SMN on the party.

    Currently I think SMN damage is the 2nd highest being bard the one who does most damage right now. For normal mobs I just send pet miasma, bio, bio II, fester, ruin and they are dead. I have killed level 49 mobs being 40 to complete the hunting log without any problems. I think SMN is perfect as it is.
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Alenghil View Post
    I have done those dungeons without any problem even with 2 SMN on the party.

    Currently I think SMN damage is the 2nd highest being bard the one who does most damage right now. For normal mobs I just send pet miasma, bio, bio II, fester, ruin and they are dead. I have killed level 49 mobs being 40 to complete the hunting log without any problems. I think SMN is perfect as it is.
    That's right. SMN is a class that can do many things solo, like quests and finishing hunting logs. But as a party member, i still don't know if the damage is high enough. Maybe SMN will need a buff or two.
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    Kevee's Avatar
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by mountaindew View Post
    I am a 45 Summoner currently and just wanted to point out that this class is currently very under-powered from MY experience.
    We are classified as a DPS but our DPS is lacking compared to other DPS classes by a lot, this has been mentioned by alot of summoners that I know as well so it is not just me being bad at my class.

    Compared to a Bard/Archer or Monk/Puglist or Dragoon/Lancer or even Thau/BlackMage we deal less damage to all of them in Dungeons.

    Yes, we are a DoT based class and our damage deals overtime, even so; in boss fights where the DoTs run their full duration on the boss for maximum damage we are still lacking the DPS compared to the other classes.

    They need to increase the DoT damage and increase the Pet damage much more for this class to be anywhere near useful compared to other classes.
    I am 40 and feel the exact opposite.

    Even not factoring in my pet I am almost always #2 on aggro list.
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Speed is the biggest issue imo. it might put out good damage over time, especially with fester in your rotation. garuda giving extra time in DoTs is nice as well (which gives your more time spamming Ruin over and over again -_-), but lot's of the dungeons seem to need fast damage. Also in some fights it's hard to keep the summon alive (even more a scholar issue than smn).
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    Excuse me, i did the Titan Quest but i dont see the egi quest yet. Where is the quest?
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    Daniel Lionheart
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 39
    Cant get the class titan quest for some reason. I already did the titan scenario quest and im level 39 at the moment :S
    Where do i get the quest?
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielLionheart View Post
    Cant get the class titan quest for some reason. I already did the titan scenario quest and im level 39 at the moment :S
    Where do i get the quest?
    Go to where you get SMN skills, it's not in the ACN guild. It's in new gridania.
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    Mountain Dew
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    They are a DPS class and sure you can do dungeons with them, only problem is if you have ANY other DPS class in the dungeon instead, you would be able to finish that dungeon so much faster because they just do much more damage than Summoners at the current state.

    Being #2 on the aggro list does not mean much, just means you aggro them more, it does not mean you deal more damage. According to the damage meters, we constantly deal much less damage than all the other DPS classes out there.

    Don't get me wrong, this class is fun and I like it and will continue to play it but I am just disappointed in the damage output overall. All other classes outshine us in damage potential.

    You guys will see what I mean when your level 45+ and group up alot, we can't even stack up DoTs fast because all of our skills share the same global cooldown... =(
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    Last edited by mountaindew; 08-29-2013 at 08:11 AM.

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    Character
    Malakaz Vosoma
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Yup level 40 at the moment let me just say the level 40 skill is downright disappointing and let me add if summoner damage needs a buff or what I think square should do is buff the pets.

    Now I am kicking myself for not going black mage when I made my character. >_> Since its long to start again and the fact that servers are locked from making new characters.
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