Summoner Info

[chishi]

Got a noob question. I heard that ur sum is only as powerful as ur arn. Someone said get ur arn to 50 then work on ur sum. My question is would they not both level up at the same time?

They do. SMN and SCH are just specializations of ACN. You're still an ACN, but you can draw abilities from either SMN/SCH depending on what job stone you have equipped. You can also heal lower level dungeons once you unlock scholar.

[Quasihemdem]

Sweet ty for the fast response.

[mountaindew]

I am a 45 Summoner currently and just wanted to point out that this class is currently very under-powered from MY experience.
We are classified as a DPS but our DPS is lacking compared to other DPS classes by a lot, this has been mentioned by alot of summoners that I know as well so it is not just me being bad at my class.

Compared to a Bard/Archer or Monk/Puglist or Dragoon/Lancer or even Thau/BlackMage we deal less damage to all of them in Dungeons.

Yes, we are a DoT based class and our damage deals overtime, even so; in boss fights where the DoTs run their full duration on the boss for maximum damage we are still lacking the DPS compared to the other classes.

They need to increase the DoT damage and increase the Pet damage much more for this class to be anywhere near useful compared to other classes.

[Gnc1234]

I am a lv 34 summoner and I agree that little iffy and bane (dot spread) are not what I thought they would be.....however I like the class and hope they give the damage output a review.....I am excited for fester... And m&m 2......those of you out there using those in your loadout still feel under powered? I have to agree I am disappointed.....well there is always archer for ranged dps

[Cori]

Yes, we are a DoT based class and our damage deals overtime, even so; in boss fights where the DoTs run their full duration on the boss for maximum damage we are still lacking the DPS compared to the other classes.

They need to increase the DoT damage and increase the Pet damage much more for this class to be anywhere near useful compared to other classes.

After having a few runs of sunken temple and cutters cry I got to the same conclusion. Our damage output is just too low in some scenarios. Take cutters cry for example, when the princess summons her minions all I could do is pop miasma, bio i+ii on princess then bane to spread the love on adds. Still, with the guard and marshal plus additional minions our party could not keep up even though we had PLD, DRG and WHM

[Alenghil]

After having a few runs of sunken temple and cutters cry I got to the same conclusion. Our damage output is just too low in some scenarios. Take cutters cry for example, when the princess summons her minions all I could do is pop miasma, bio i+ii on princess then bane to spread the love on adds. Still, with the guard and marshal plus additional minions our party could not keep up even though we had PLD, DRG and WHM

I have done those dungeons without any problem even with 2 SMN on the party.

Currently I think SMN damage is the 2nd highest being bard the one who does most damage right now. For normal mobs I just send pet miasma, bio, bio II, fester, ruin and they are dead. I have killed level 49 mobs being 40 to complete the hunting log without any problems. I think SMN is perfect as it is.

[Starkbeaumont]

Speed is the biggest issue imo. it might put out good damage over time, especially with fester in your rotation. garuda giving extra time in DoTs is nice as well (which gives your more time spamming Ruin over and over again -_-), but lot's of the dungeons seem to need fast damage. Also in some fights it's hard to keep the summon alive (even more a scholar issue than smn).

[Kevee]

I am a 45 Summoner currently and just wanted to point out that this class is currently very under-powered from MY experience.
We are classified as a DPS but our DPS is lacking compared to other DPS classes by a lot, this has been mentioned by alot of summoners that I know as well so it is not just me being bad at my class.

Compared to a Bard/Archer or Monk/Puglist or Dragoon/Lancer or even Thau/BlackMage we deal less damage to all of them in Dungeons.

Yes, we are a DoT based class and our damage deals overtime, even so; in boss fights where the DoTs run their full duration on the boss for maximum damage we are still lacking the DPS compared to the other classes.

They need to increase the DoT damage and increase the Pet damage much more for this class to be anywhere near useful compared to other classes.

I am 40 and feel the exact opposite.

Even not factoring in my pet I am almost always #2 on aggro list.

[Arcana]

Excuse me, i did the Titan Quest but i dont see the egi quest yet. Where is the quest?

[Elizabeth]

I have done those dungeons without any problem even with 2 SMN on the party.

Currently I think SMN damage is the 2nd highest being bard the one who does most damage right now. For normal mobs I just send pet miasma, bio, bio II, fester, ruin and they are dead. I have killed level 49 mobs being 40 to complete the hunting log without any problems. I think SMN is perfect as it is.

That's right. SMN is a class that can do many things solo, like quests and finishing hunting logs. But as a party member, i still don't know if the damage is high enough. Maybe SMN will need a buff or two.