Quick question, is it confirmed Lancer 20+Pug 15= Dragoon?
Quick question, is it confirmed Lancer 20+Pug 15= Dragoon?

I've struggled with this information as well. Various "updated" sources contradict one another on this topic. Consensus seems to be at launch our abilities will be drawn from PUG and MAR but there seems to be no definitive answer on which one we need to level 15. More sources seem to claim PUG is the answer, but any sort of confirmation would be lovely.
As an example:
http://ffxivrealm.com/wiki/dragoon/ (this page claims PUG is the lvl 15 req for Dragoon)
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Dragoon (this page claims MAR is the lvl 15 req for Dragoon)
I believe it was changed

Yes, +Lancer guild quest to unlock Dragoon soul

Are our ARC cross abilities getting taken away with launch? I noticed during phase 4 I still had access to most of their moves.

As the DRG class (I'm assuming you're not DRG yet, just LCN like myself) we have access to only 2 other classes abilities (both determined by the game devs). As a LCN you will still have access to the same ARC abilities. If you look at them though, they have LCN in their list but not DRG.

In phase 3 supposedly dragoon abilities derived from ARC and PUG, so I believe that's what Doublestep is referring to. Though, you may be right regarding their remark on phase 4.As the DRG class (I'm assuming you're not DRG yet, just LCN like myself) we have access to only 2 other classes abilities (both determined by the game devs). As a LCN you will still have access to the same ARC abilities. If you look at them though, they have LCN in their list but not DRG.

During P4 I was able to use my Conjurer and Pugilist abilities with my Lancer. Because of my level I could only use 6 slots worth or something. I know I had protect, raise, cure, second wind, featherfoot, and some other pug ability which lets you attack if they missed you (or they parried your attack?)
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This will always be true. Cross-classing is unrestricted until you advance into your job. While you're a lancer, you can cross class off any other class. When you become a Dragoon you will only have 5 cross-class slots (at level 50) and those abilities can only be taken from MAR and PUG.During P4 I was able to use my Conjurer and Pugilist abilities with my Lancer. Because of my level I could only use 6 slots worth or something. I know I had protect, raise, cure, second wind, featherfoot, and some other pug ability which lets you attack if they missed you (or they parried your attack?)
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