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    Rivienne Bertouaint
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    People prefer Pallies the same way they prefer BLMs and BRDs over MNK and DRG.
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    As a WAR, I just don't get hit. Especially in Turn 2, you learn to be quick on your feet and run OUT of the red patterns on the floor. But 100% of the PLDs I've run with just stand in it.
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    That horse has left the barn and WAR will carry this stigma was the rest of the life of the game I fear.
    This is what I am worried about too. First off monks are my favourite DPS class by far. I have run with some bad ones, but the good ones are always amazing. With a good WAR and MNK in the party, it is always a smoother run. Second, Bards on the other hand are my least favourite class to work with. In theory they are great, but I rarely see it. (Dragoon, I have only come across occasionally, so I don't have a good feel for them yet.)

    Also on the aoe thing: in general I think a lot of PLD seem to have a worse off understanding of what happens after mitigation. They seem to think that mitigation means they don't get hurt at all so if they die it is all on the healer, which is only partly true. I actually had to tell a PLD once in stone vigil(?) to stop standing in aoe or I was going to run out of MP before the end no matter how much mitigation he had because my MP is limited. Similarly, my worst runs of Hauke are always PLD who stay in the aoe and try and take it. Obviously there are slower players as well as inexperienced, but the AOE thing seems common enough that I think it must be something that simply isn't learned well for that particular job especially not early enough on to become habit.
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    Last edited by Rivienne; 10-10-2013 at 10:13 PM. Reason: 1000 chars

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    Well... all I can say is, this is how I felt back in 1.0 playing MNK. The prejudices about how instances were "impossible" with MNK were rampant and everyone told you to "just play ARC/LNC" Now it's another class that is carrying this stigma. I don't think it will ever change, it will always hit some class, you just realize it more when it hits you. You just have to find people worth partying with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Well... all I can say is, this is how I felt back in 1.0 playing MNK. The prejudices about how instances were "impossible" with MNK were rampant and everyone told you to "just play ARC/LNC" Now it's another class that is carrying this stigma. I don't think it will ever change, it will always hit some class, you just realize it more when it hits you. You just have to find people worth partying with.
    Yep it's basically this, if you can find good friends/people that will let you play with any class YOU want to play is the best.
    I leveled every battle class in 1.0 to prep for any types of parties but my favorite will and always will be Warrior. (Favorite job from FF1,3,5 - before Ninja's and Blue Mages and Suppin.. lol)
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    Regardless of how you feel, and what you know: If you limit yourself to one class because it's your favorite, you're going to have a bad time. YES, you CAN do all these things you want on X job, but you will fight an uphill battle unless you have a good group of like-minded people. Level ALL your jobs. Be flexible. Patches often change the landscape greatly and it's possible your favorite will have it's day in the spotlight... but today is not that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Regardless of how you feel, and what you know: If you limit yourself to one class because it's your favorite, you're going to have a bad time. YES, you CAN do all these things you want on X job, but you will fight an uphill battle unless you have a good group of like-minded people. Level ALL your jobs. Be flexible. Patches often change the landscape greatly and it's possible your favorite will have it's day in the spotlight... but today is not that day.
    It's not about being flexible in this case, really. All you have to level is one of each role. That's enough flexibility right there.

    There is really no reason to struggle leveling a class you can't identify yourself with. If you can't, then you will be bad at it, and/or won't enjoy playing the game - and that's what the game ultimately is about.
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    Its interesting that while they say that they will be adding more spots where Karakuls spawn, in the case of Banemites they just mention adjusting their spawn rate. I hope they don't mean that they'll be decreasing the spawn rate.

    Regardless, at least on Phoenix, the main problem with Banemates is the bot farming. As long as they take care of those, farming Banemites honestly isn't that bad since regular players don't really monopolize the farming spots for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Saturday 5AM PDT? I'll be there. (P.Letter Live - Live translation attempt [again])

    I'll be training my cro... subligar.

    OUCH!


    Looking forward to your live translations tomorrow night Rein, I hope you get some sleep though!
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    Last edited by MStowastiqVahlshdeh; 10-18-2013 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh View Post
    OUCH!


    Looking forward to your live translations tomorrow night Rein, I hope you get some sleep though!
    Got all the monsters, 5 hour energy and coffee ready for this
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    Santori Zhonets
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    It's always great to hear and understand what's going on. Many thanks in advance to all involved.

    I'm also glad to see SE is continuing with their great out-of-game artwork. There's the All Saints' Wake piece, of course, but also a sort of sneak peek at a housting-themed illustration. Very nice.


    (I enlarged it slightly from the Letter LIVE promo slider on Lodestone. Looking forward to the full-sized version.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    think u need to hire me as concept artist lol.
    Let's see your PLD AF, I'm working on it really hard right now and here's what I have so far

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